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Original Message                 Date: 13-Jun-02  @  12:29 PM   -   another stupid drum roll question

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Can't find the thread in another forum that had some suggestions on this. I hear those trance drumrolls or Underworld's awesome drumrolls. When I put sample hits in a row to make drumrolls they almost always sound too "woody" for lack of a better word. How does one create a roll that sounds smooth? Is it serious compression on the hits so that they melt together? Is it enveloping the hits?




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Message 11/14             26-Jun-02  @  06:20 AM   -   RE: another stupid drum roll question

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i found a cool effect was to start a roll, keep the attack slow and then make it quick (attack that is) and increase the release time as the roll progresses. Maybe a compresser may help blend it together more?



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Message 12/14             26-Jun-02  @  06:28 PM   -   RE: another stupid drum roll question

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well, if using as comp on a snare, it needs to have a very fast release or what it does is make the over all level higher and you lose the build up and it smears them all togerther by cutting off the attack of the next hit. I found the new cakewalk comp to sound great on snares, and the waves c1 is good too. If using a vintage emulaator like the RCL, use the electro, manual release, set it low with fast attack and release, but I never did get that hard compression sound like c1.



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Message 13/14             26-Jun-02  @  07:09 PM   -   RE: another stupid drum roll question

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with the trance snare roll it's all in the sample itself AND the velocities. The sound can't be too sharp! and you don't really want them to blend together! Decrease the volume. I've set up solid rolls that sounded crap until I turned them down!!! They shouldn't be anywhere near as loud as the snare in the track!

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try using other types of hits, like quick 2 measure kick rolls. Or a snippet of a female vocal sample. Don't just machine gun through 8 measures. Play around with breaks in the last 2 measures of a roll... try chorus with mad feedback during the last measure! roll at 16ths and bump it to 32nds during the final measure, than drop the whole track for a measure and come back HUGE with your most commanding lead!

Remember to think about the dancefloor and the kids rockin' out when you write! it's easy to get caught up in "sittin 'round the Studio" and that comes out in the track!

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Message 14/14             01-Jul-02  @  02:07 AM   -   RE: another stupid drum roll question

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