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Original Message Date: 11-Dec-02 @ 06:51 PM - mmt8 sucks! what else?

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why anyone would continue to use this arcaic box of garbage is beyond me. yes, i'm bitter, i just started using one a couple months ago and last night i lost EVERYTHING! you can't even back your data up properly. recording pings onto a tape recorded or HD. what is that all about. sure, it was great 30 years ago maybe but there surely must be something better now right?

the main reason i started using it was so that i would not have to stop and start between tracks. i want to have a continuos non stop thing going on. can you do this on an mpc?

basically, this is what i want the sequencer to do:

1. controll midi
2. be able to play an entire set (at least 1 hour) without having to stop and start
3. it would be great to find one that could record onthe fly

any suggestions? i'd even consider a laptop if these ideas where worked out. please help!

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Message 11/33 12-Dec-02 @ 04:25 AM - RE: mmt8 sucks! what else?

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makes for smoother transitions if you use all 16 tracks of the sequencer. So that you don't just jump from track to track (too many FLEM's do this, IMO). With 2 you can control seperate pieces of gear and have seemless transitions...

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Message 12/33 12-Dec-02 @ 10:34 AM - RE: mmt8 sucks! what else?

influx

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hey jp..is the MMT8 the only sequencer you have?

you do have your PC....and odds are you could obtain a soft sequencer

you COULD dump all the data of the MMT that way...a full sysex dump.

of course...no good to load back up on stage..sorry...my bad

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Message 13/33 12-Dec-02 @ 11:19 AM - RE: mmt8 sucks! what else?

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Message 14/33 12-Dec-02 @ 07:10 PM - RE: mmt8 sucks! what else?

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qx3? tell me more! please.

influx, i have a mac but the mmt8 isn't a sysex thing. you have to record from tape out...recording these archaic ping of information...and then play this audio back into the tape in of the mmt8. at the moment, i would rather not try playing live if this is what i have to go through. it's just unacceptable.

what i would rather do is find a sequencer that does the job. but i am finding that that is a difficult task.

qx3? never even heard of it. time for a search.

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Message 15/33 12-Dec-02 @ 07:49 PM - RE: mmt8 sucks! what else?

influx

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"influx, i have a mac but the mmt8 isn't a sysex thing. you have to record from tape out...recording these archaic ping of information...and then play this audio back into the tape in of the mmt8. at the moment, i would rather not try playing live if this is what i have to go through. it's just unacceptable. "

sorry man, but...read your manual. Ive DONE total dumps to another sequencer. I know it uses tape, but you can do it my way, too. and its VERY quick

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Message 16/33 12-Dec-02 @ 08:17 PM - RE: mmt8 sucks! what else?

nomad

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yeah, alesis made the 'mididisk' or something as i recall, it was basically a sysex recorder and a disk drive, and i know of at least one person that had an mmt8 + mididisk and would send his patterns to the mididisk via sysex and then save them on disk there. not as quick as an internal disk drive, but just as effective.

ironically a q80ex, with its 64K sysex recording ability, might also work here (receive sysex, save to disk)... i dunna remember if the regular q80 does this too...

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Message 17/33 12-Dec-02 @ 09:10 PM - RE: mmt8 sucks! what else?

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i meant alesis _datadisk_ of course.

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Message 18/33 12-Dec-02 @ 09:19 PM - RE: mmt8 sucks! what else?

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it's sysex capable, don't recall that figure tho.

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Message 19/33 12-Dec-02 @ 09:21 PM - RE: mmt8 sucks! what else?

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influx, no appologies necessary. if it is possible to do sysex dumps i will be thrilled! that would totally change my mind about using the mmt8. the question is though, do i need to to have the alesis datadisk or can i dump to another medium...storing it as a file in logic or something? i will read my manual when i get home...and i'll do it with a bit more encouragement. thanks!

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Message 20/33 12-Dec-02 @ 10:51 PM - RE: mmt8 sucks! what else?

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influx, thanks again. if you hadn't said you've done sysex i would have thrown my mmt8 in the trash. now, not only does it seem viable to backup my songs...but i can load midi sequences from logic via sysex. i'm again excited to work on a live set!

from my search today i found the following from http://www.mmt8.com

How can I use a computer to backup my parts and songs?
How do I get sysex data in and out of my MMT-8?
If your computer has a MIDI interface, then you can store the entire contents of your MMT-8s memory on the computer's hard drive via sysex. Sysex is simply control information that can be sent through MIDI cables; in this case, the MMT-8 uses sysex to dump its memory. The memory files can be sent back to the MMT-8 in a similar fashion.

Here is a 'how-to' using Alesis' Freeloader software. Most computer-based sequencers will allow you to receive and send sysex.

Can I convert MMT-8 sysex files to and from MIDI files?
Yes. Pete Kvitek's MMT-8 Exchange will let you do exactly that, and has many other useful functions. The software costs $19.95.

Alternatively, you could look at Giebler Enterprise's MMT-8 Sequencer Conversion Software, which is more expensive and hasn't got a nice Windows interface.

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