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Original Message                 Date: 20-Dec-10  @  11:58 PM     Edit: 21-Dec-10  |  12:00 AM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

k

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as requested - including all tips, remapping controllers, turning off faders, customising LED displays, using 2-units, etc etc.










This is in HD on youtube, dunno if it takes time to get different playback quality selections on the plylist embed.
 
 
 
 

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Message 11/26             06-Jan-11  @  08:06 PM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

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oh yes, the BCF follows Logic's track/channel selection a treat; as you say, including bank-stepping (that doesnt happen in cubase, or didnt back with SX).

maybe the underline thing is only for Logic Pro version? but as you say, the LED helps you know which channel is selected

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Message 12/26             06-Jan-11  @  08:55 PM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

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I think it's a 9 vs 8 issue actually, the Exp 9 manual mentions the bars in the mix window but 8 doesn't.

Any thoughts on my other question about the GUIs not popping up in Eq channel view etc?
Cheers



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Message 13/26             06-Jan-11  @  09:01 PM     Edit: 06-Jan-11  |  09:11 PM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

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oh sh*t btw, if u ctrl+click on any mixer channel strip when the mixer is open, do you get a menu appearing in logic express?... and if yes, does the menu have an item called: 'Control surface bars' - if yes, is it ticked?
 

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Message 14/26             08-Jan-11  @  11:56 AM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

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macaudiosolutions@gmail.com wrote:


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k wrote:

hmm. odd.

id up the firmware for starters just to be sure. Im certain i remember something about that update being very important from 5 years ago.. best have version 1.7 which i think was the last one - one of my units is version 1.6, the other is version 1.7. both work fine, individualy and together.

secondly - check your midi devices in OSX applications/utilities - see if you have multiple BCF2000 units listed there - delete any BCF2000 units that exist and start again from scratch i would suggest

ive had weird problems before which turned out to be because there was multiple BCF2000 units in OSX applications/utilities

try all that first i reckon




Thank you for your reply ;)

My unit has firmware 1.10 which is the last update on the Behringer webiste (you can see it on the video when I switch on the unit).

As you suggested, Ive checked in Audio/Midi setup and I have just one BCF2000...

I tried to post my problem in a Logic User Forum and I meet a person with had my same problem and nightmare, and it seems he solved the problem by chance!!!

http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=66164

I dont know what to think....I only hope its something wrong with my unit and bring it back to my dealer and try with another one...

In case it pop in your mind some other trick please let me know...

thank you again ;)))
 



ok, try this:

go to your osx account, applications, utilities: audio & midi setup

delete the bcf2000

then open logic

then connect and power up the bcf2000

if the Logic controller setup panel doesnt pop-up when the bcf boot, then go to the main logic menu / preferences / control surfaces / setup

this will open the setup panel manualy

if the bcf isnt visible as an icon then in the setup panel menus (edit, new & view)

choose NEW and make sure 'automatic installation' is ticked - once that is ticked, if the bcf doesnt pop up when you restart it, then choose the menu item: New / scan all models

it should then appear

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Message 15/26             08-Jan-11  @  11:03 PM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

macaudiosolutions

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k wrote:


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macaudiosolutions@gmail.com wrote:



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k wrote:

hmm. odd.

id up the firmware for starters just to be sure. Im certain i remember something about that update being very important from 5 years ago.. best have version 1.7 which i think was the last one - one of my units is version 1.6, the other is version 1.7. both work fine, individualy and together.

secondly - check your midi devices in OSX applications/utilities - see if you have multiple BCF2000 units listed there - delete any BCF2000 units that exist and start again from scratch i would suggest

ive had weird problems before which turned out to be because there was multiple BCF2000 units in OSX applications/utilities

try all that first i reckon





Thank you for your reply ;)

My unit has firmware 1.10 which is the last update on the Behringer webiste (you can see it on the video when I switch on the unit).

As you suggested, Ive checked in Audio/Midi setup and I have just one BCF2000...

I tried to post my problem in a Logic User Forum and I meet a person with had my same problem and nightmare, and it seems he solved the problem by chance!!!

http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=66164

I dont know what to think....I only hope its something wrong with my unit and bring it back to my dealer and try with another one...

In case it pop in your mind some other trick please let me know...

thank you again ;)))




ok, try this:

go to your osx account, applications, utilities: audio & midi setup

delete the bcf2000

then open logic

then connect and power up the bcf2000

if the Logic controller setup panel doesnt pop-up when the bcf boot, then go to the main logic menu / preferences / control surfaces / setup

this will open the setup panel manualy

if the bcf isnt visible as an icon then in the setup panel menus (edit, new & view)

choose NEW and make sure automatic installation is ticked - once that is ticked, if the bcf doesnt pop up when you restart it, then choose the menu item: New / scan all models

it should then appear



Thanx again for your reply ;)

I've followed exactly your instructions above, but with no luck. My unit can not be automatic installed even with "automatic instalaltion" ticked...and when I do "scan all models" it doesn't appear or pup up anything...the only way is to install manually the model "Mackie Design-Logic Control"...then I assign the BCF2000 as Midi IN/Out...and even if I re-boot teh BCF2000, the unit can set itself in LC Control Mode, as showed in your video tutorial...

At this point I can only thing something wrong with my unit...

In case you have some other tricks I am here ;)

Thank you ;)))) 



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Message 16/26             09-Jan-11  @  07:24 PM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

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Have you got any other midi devices attached to the mac? If so, have you tried detaching them and seeing whether the bcf is visible?

PS THanks to K for the suggestion re the channel popup, but no i don't get that option, so I think it's a Logic 8 issue: no control bars on mixer. But my workaround is fine really so really happy with BCF now for £100! 



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Message 17/26             20-May-11  @  06:42 AM     Edit: 20-May-11  |  06:43 AM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

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Hi,

First of all, thanks for offering all your knowledge on this! But I'm having similar problems to the folks above....

After following your video and booting in LC mode, the controller setup doesn't pop up. If I manually check it, there is a Logic Controller there but the BCF does nothing unless I go to prefs>midi>general>reset midi drivers. Once I do this, the BCF's Pn mode works (faders, pan pots and mute/solo functionality) for the first 8 channels in the mixer. If I press Preset right (which should move along a bank of eight tracks) it moves the view of the mixer far right to show outs and master fader and when I check back it's moved the assigned channels along by only one, not eight (so from controlling 1-8 to 2-9). Further presses of preset right do nothing!

Tearing my hair out about this. Any help would be so gratefully received! I am running firmware v1.10, connecting via USB to iMac running Logic 9.

Sam



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Message 18/26             13-Jul-11  @  05:06 PM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

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Hi guys, those tutorials are great and there's loads of fantastic advice on these babies but Sam, did you ever resolve your issue? I'm having exactly the same problem and can't sort it out. It's driving me loopy.

 



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Message 19/26             14-Jul-11  @  12:40 PM     Edit: 14-Jul-11  |  12:40 PM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

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did you guys have plenty of tracks in arrange though? The order the bcf steps the tracks is based on the arrange page not the mixer. so if the mixer has 24 channels but you only have 9 tracks in arrange, then the bcf will only step as far as 9.

Also did you guys check the osx midi preferences as listed above to see if there is 2 bcf units listed by mistake?

(go to your osx account, applications, utilities: audio & midi setup)


OR THIS FIXES PROBS FOR SOME PEOPLE:


Delete the User Preferences


You can resolve many issues by restoring Logic Pro back to its original settings. This will not impact your song files. To reset your Logic Pro user preference settings to their original state, do the following:
In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Preferences. Note: The tilde (~) represents your Home folder.

Remove the com.apple.logic.pro.plist file from the Preferences folder. Note that if you have programmed any custom key commands, this will reset them to the defaults. You may wish to export your custom key command as a preset before performing this step. See the Logic Pro User Manual for details on how to do this.


---------THIS BIT-----------

If you are having trouble with a control surface in Logic Pro, then you may also wish to delete the com.apple.logic.pro.cs file from the preferences folder.

---------THIS BIT-----------



 If you have upgraded from Logic Pro 7, you may also need to remove ~/Library/Preferences/Logic/com.apple.logic.pro.
 

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Message 20/26             22-Dec-11  @  06:00 AM   -   RE: Full user guide - Behringer BCF2000 & Logic Pro

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sambatesmusic@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi,

First of all, thanks for offering all your knowledge on this! But Im having similar problems to the folks above....

After following your video and booting in LC mode, the controller setup doesnt pop up. If I manually check it, there is a Logic Controller there but the BCF does nothing unless I go to prefs>midi>general>reset midi drivers. Once I do this, the BCFs Pn mode works (faders, pan pots and mute/solo functionality) for the first 8 channels in the mixer. If I press Preset right (which should move along a bank of eight tracks) it moves the view of the mixer far right to show outs and master fader and when I check back its moved the assigned channels along by only one, not eight (so from controlling 1-8 to 2-9). Further presses of preset right do nothing!

Tearing my hair out about this. Any help would be so gratefully received! I am running firmware v1.10, connecting via USB to iMac running Logic 9.

Sam


I am having the exact same problem! I followed he tutorial (excellent BTW). Afterwards, I ran into this problem. I've checked everything I know of. Is there a fix for this?

I've also noticed 4 blue control surface bars, in addition to the 8 white ones at the bottom of the mixer? This seems to have something to do with it. I don't remember seeing the blue bars in the tutorial or on my screen before.

Im running via USB with firmware 1.10, Logic Pro 9.1.6 on OS X 10.7.2.

I'm afraid I've already torn my hair out! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Joe



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