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Original Message 1/10             17-Nov-99  @  11:44 AM   -   Substarctive Synthesis book suggestion ?

JFX

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Hello,

coud someone suggest a good book on Substactive Synthesis?

I have a JX-3P with wich I experiment a lot(for about 2 months now, my first synth).

I'm trying to get some deep sounding bass, but haven't really succeded for now.

It's easy to get great strings with it, but I have problems for bass.

Any suggestions or leads would be appreciated.

Thanks
Jean-François



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Message 2/10             17-Nov-99  @  12:41 PM   -   RE: Substarctive Synthesis book suggestion ?

fresh

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Uh, Substactive Synthesis? I hope you mean subtractive cuz I ain't heard of the latter. If that's all your into I got a few of em. Keep your eyes out for "Learning Music With Synthesizers" David Friend, Alan R. Pearlman, Thomas D. Piggott. It's an antique but it's super informative about classic analog. You could also try "The New Complete Synthesizer" or "The Synthesizer & Electronic Keyboard Handbook". They are all as old as the sythesizers themselves but there is not as much new material about it these days. Check some used book stores maybe.



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Message 3/10             17-Nov-99  @  12:44 PM   -   RE: Substarctive Synthesis book suggestion ?

fresh again

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Oh, "Synthesizer Basics" by Moog, Powell, Rhea, Pocaro is a great old one.



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Message 4/10             17-Nov-99  @  01:01 PM   -   RE: Substarctive Synthesis book suggestion ?

JFX

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Thanks a lot Fresh.
Yeah, my spelling is a bit loose.



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Message 5/10             20-Nov-99  @  03:26 PM   -   RE: Substarctive Synthesis book suggestion ?

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i got the MKS and it aint a great bass machine really, id choose other-s first given a choice of synths - i tend to get the best basses out of it's square waves... really you need the PG200 programmer unit - get that and it'll be easy - but with the cursors method, it's a bloody nightmare - BUT - unfortunately, the JP wont respond to the programmer when playing via midi, (only from it's keyboard local), whilst the rack MKS version WILL... so um.. maybe look at trading it if you want to do realtime controller moves as it's being triggered via external device - sorry to break that news to you -



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Message 6/10             20-Nov-99  @  04:39 PM   -   RE: Substarctive Synthesis book suggestion ?

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I think Jean has discovered a whole new form of musical expression with Substarctive House.



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Message 7/10             23-Nov-99  @  01:13 PM   -   RE: Substarctive Synthesis book suggestion ?

JFX

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K,

yeah that midi vs knob control is much of a drawback. You can only control one param with the rate slider while midi trig. But i will still get a pg-200 since I only paid 75 US$ for the unit, it's just a matter of patience.

Guess I'll just do my classes on it 'till I can afford a more versatile piece of gear. The Nova seems to be what I need from what I've read and heard.

I use a P200/128MG with SBPCI512.
An ok setup for a newbie, but I want to get out of the computer since I'm not very excited by the thing, been working with them for years. I will still use it for sequencing, but have no interest in upgrading it.

And on a sheer playfullness level, twisting knobs is a lot sexier than driving a mouse  

Keep up the good work, DT is the most usefull site I've ever ran across. Those old threads are filled with knowledge.

Fresh: Found this one in NY:

Friend, David / Alan R Pearlman / Thomas D Piggott.
Learning Music With Synthesizers.
ARP Instruments, 1974.

thanks for the tip

Ison: maybe I should rename as Dylsexia  



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Message 8/10             24-Nov-09  @  03:19 PM   -   RE: Substarctive Synthesis book suggestion ?

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Oh my first post at DT, ain't it cute: incapable of spelling "subtractive"

10 freakin' years

egad!



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Message 9/10             25-Nov-09  @  11:07 PM   -   RE: Substarctive Synthesis book suggestion ?

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lol is that you? jfx? wow man! props!

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Message 10/10             26-Nov-09  @  02:28 PM   -   RE: Substarctive Synthesis book suggestion ?

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Naaah, props to you K !

See, there is a blatant lie in that first post of mine: I actually had the JX-3P since 1994 along a
copy of
then Cakewalk. I could never figure the thing out and kind of set it aside after a few weeks, just
noodling around with the presets now and then.

A few years later, 1998, I was at a friends house and he showed me this little program called
Rebirth.

Doing some searches on TB-303 and TR-808 led me here, and there you go, I bought a
smapler



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