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Original Message 1/12             15-Aug-01  @  11:08 PM   -   Celtic scale?

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Hello... I would like to know what scale is used in Celtic music.

Thanks.  



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Message 2/12             16-Aug-01  @  02:13 PM   -   RE: Celtic scale?

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Celtic music makes a lot of use of the mixolydian and dorian modes and pentatonic scales.Another one of the elements of Celtic music is the use of microtonal bends as found in blues and Arabic music e.g.if I was playing a tune that used C Mixolydian on acoustic guitar I would bend the the flatted 7th so that it would give a sound between the flatted 7th and the major 7th.Celtic music is highly ornamented,it uses a lot of slurs,bends and grace notes if you look at pieces transcribed for the guitar you invariably see lots of very fast hammer ons and pull offs and lots of slides and bends.Guitarists who play Celtic music often tune their guitars to DADGAD which is also known as G modal.



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Message 3/12             16-Aug-01  @  06:04 PM   -   RE: Celtic scale?

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Ok thanks Pict  ... can you tell me what notes are in mixolydian, dorian modes and pentatonic scales.



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Message 4/12             16-Aug-01  @  06:23 PM   -   RE: Celtic scale?

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C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C
x   x   x x   x   x x   x                       x   x x   x   x   x x   x

C Mixolydian at the bottom end of the keyboard diagram.

C Dorian at the top



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Message 5/12             16-Aug-01  @  06:26 PM   -   RE: Celtic scale?

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C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C
x   x   x     x   x     x                       x     x   x   x     x   x

C Major pentatonic at the bottom, C minor pentatonic at the top.



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Message 6/12             16-Aug-01  @  06:32 PM   -   RE: Celtic scale?

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C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C
x                       x                                                

To get an idea of the different sounds of these scales try playing a droning C octave interval in the bass as in the diagram and at the higher end (middle C and above)improvise melodies using only the notes of the Mixolydian mode for example then once you get tuned into the sound of that move onto the next scale.



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Message 7/12             16-Aug-01  @  07:11 PM   -   RE: Celtic scale?

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WOW.. you are fast answerer  ... thanks once again.  



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Message 8/12             21-Aug-01  @  09:42 PM   -   RE: Celtic scale?

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It's interesting that several hundred years ago the trade route that ran from northern Europe south to turkey and the arab world served as a trade route for musical ideas. If you listen to someone like Seamus Ennis on the Eulian pipes (why can't the Irish spell?) you hear lots of bending persian influence.



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Message 9/12             05-Mar-09  @  09:36 PM     Edit: 05-Mar-09  |  09:56 PM   -   RE: Celtic scale?

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Thanks for that pict, I have been wondering about celtic music for a while now and its something I am looking to explore.

I was wondering, if there are any well used phrases, progressions etc. that should be known?

For example blues has alot of cliches, and well used patterns, runs, progressions etc. is there anything like that in celtic?

Also, any literature for the non-music reader that could be recommend would be welcome.

and, last but not least, any good celtic artists to consider?

plus any good examples of symphonised celtic music would be great

thanks for the advice.



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Message 10/12             11-Sep-09  @  06:05 PM   -   RE: Celtic scale?

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the one i hear most often in paddy music is the 'diddly'

as in ... diddly-eye-diddly-oh-diddly-eye-di-eye-di-diddly-oh

just stick in triplets every where, patrick's yer uncle ;)

where's pict ...



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Message 11/12             12-Sep-09  @  12:07 PM   -   RE: Celtic scale?

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ah...






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