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Original Message 1/42 22-Feb-02 @ 09:09 PM - tip and tricks for pro-mixes
2) #1 also works on delays
3)use a chorus/flanger as a splitter to make subrtactor synths have stereo out. select bypass. This will make #4 possible.
4)insert a delay into one channel of each stereo track. Alternate between delaying the left and right channels of all of your tracks, except the kick and bass, between 1-50ms. This will open up the mix and give new life and space to all your sounds. Works wonders on snares, pads, and hi-hats rolls giveing the last an auto pan effect you hear on Hybrid, Uberzone, etc. You may have two play with the wet dry mix on the drums. Solo out the track and get it right. Most synth parts work best 100% wet, but snares are trickier requiring 1-3ms, and %10-%50 wet.
5)to get thick unison synths , use 3-4 subtractors submixed to one mixer. Use two of the same osc on each subtractor. Sequence out your entire song, and then when you have the track with all filter tweaks done, copy the midi to the other two tracks, and copy the patch two the other two synths. If you make changes you will need to recopy the midi over and the patch over again.
6)Export some of your one hit sweeps and stabs. Load them into an editor like wavelab or soungeforge. reverse them, then load them back into an empry NN19 and assign them to a key. You can do this by hitting the file button at the top of the display window. Works great for creating reversed snares,hats, sweeps strings etc. I also loaded an 808 kick that I use for old school pitched kcik drum.
7)if yoiu have rebirth take advantage of loading those standard aiff files into a Redrum. They are locared in the propellorheads\modpacker\standard componants file. 909 kicks and hats never let me down.
8)For Sonar users,if you have a multi-channel sound card like a dspfactory, you can run Reason with Sonar. I use this for tracking vocals. You just select no audio in reason. launch Sonar, then select the directx driver in reason. Put those headphones on and set up you input buss to recieve audio from only the mic in and away you go, then load the vocals into a NN19 after they have been compressed using a waves RCL or other nice plug-in comp. You can sync reason to Sonar using Hubi's loopback virtual midi ports.
Goodluck. I will be posting up some very usfull subtractor patches in this thread. I encourage you to add your ideas and patches as well.
Message 2/42 22-Feb-02 @ 10:23 PM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
Message 3/42 22-Feb-02 @ 11:08 PM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
say, do you maybe know what phase modulation on Substractor does? is it something like ringmod? i´m trying to recreate a patch done in Reason on my uQ, but cant quite crack it... help appreciated.
cheers, M.
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Message 19/42 05-Mar-02 @ 03:32 AM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
use the lfo from a synth's back pannel, routed out the back to modulate a pan on a mixer. There are inputs on the back of every unit that support inputs for modulation. So you can use any of the modifier outs of a unit to the input of any other device. Pan is just one. I use the lfe to pan input on a delay so the only the deley pans in sync with the lfo modualting the synth's filter for a sweeping delay effect. i'll get into the details about this in another when I have some more time. I'll go into triggering tricks too.
Message 20/42 17-Jul-02 @ 02:45 AM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
You route the output of mono bass and kick to a chorus and turn it to by pass so the left output from the back panel of the drum machine is going into the chorus left input .Do the same for the bass.
Now send the left output of these chorus to the input of the main mixer. Disconnect the right channel if it auto connects it.
Connect the right output from these chorus to right input of a seperate mixer.
Repeat this with the bass, so you have the same mono signal from the kick and the bass going to two diferant mixers, the main and a seperate mixer.
Now put the output of this seperate mixer into a compressor and the left output of the compressor into an open channel on the main mixer(remember to disconnect the right cahnnel after it auto connects.) Pan the bass and kick on this seperate mixer to the left.
You should now have three seperate mono signals coming into the main mixer, a kick, a bass, and a mix of the bass and kick going through a compressor. Set the comp to a high ratio 10:1 or higher, medium attack and release with the threshold down low.
On the main mixer , set the kick and bass at a point where they sound clear and ballanced. Then mix the mult in under the mix and you should here it fatten up the sound considerably without making the song louder and even allow you to lower the kick and bass and still have it be full.
Message 21/42 17-Jul-02 @ 03:24 AM Edit: 17-Jul-02 | 03:24 AM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
Message 22/42 17-Jul-02 @ 01:51 PM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
anyway its a nice and usefull trick,thnx!
Message 23/42 18-Jul-02 @ 02:51 PM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
Message 24/42 19-Jul-02 @ 02:47 AM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
Message 25/42 19-Jul-02 @ 09:12 AM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
Connect the right output from these chorus to right input of a seperate mixer."
Is this right? because if it is lay it down for me....
Message 26/42 20-Jul-02 @ 02:54 AM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
the chorus is used as a splitter on by pass. so it should have the left input on it used, and the output of it will be left to main mixer, right channel to the left input of the seperate bass/kick group mixer. Then you pan the channel to the left and route the output of that group mixer into the left in on the main.
The reason I mention the diconnect the right channel is because when you connect the left output of a stereo device to the left in on a stereo device or mixer channle it auto connects the right. This will happen when you connect the lef tout of the chorus to the mixer. Disconnect the right, then reconnect it to the group mixer. If it makes more sense do the right channel first and this will not happen when you connect the left out of the chorus to the left in on the main mixer.
I hope that is clear. I'll post an .RNS with it routed for you to see.
Message 27/42 20-Jul-02 @ 09:48 AM Edit: 20-Jul-02 | 09:49 AM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
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Message 30/42 30-Jul-02 @ 10:46 AM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
Say you want to put a deep bongo (or BD) sound in the mix and make it sound big without muddying the whole mix. Put bongo through left side compressor, what goes through the right side of the compressor will be compressed by the bongos (or BD).
I'm not happy with the reverb. I've really tryed working on it and found the following. Eqing the middle out of the reverb makes it sound a great deal better, also I add an LFO (from subtractor) to the a parametric eq, to add some colour to the reverb. But that reverb sounds very digital and tinny. (I think it maybe proper reverb requires too much DSP and latency).
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Message 38/42 06-Dec-02 @ 03:41 AM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
use a access virus instead.
sorry just got mine. i am having a hard time going near softsynths.
Message 40/42 09-Dec-02 @ 10:09 PM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
into a malstrom's filter a and b. add some
saturation. want some creative processing?
modulate with mod A and B.
Message 41/42 22-Dec-02 @ 09:48 PM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
but yeah if you want to beef up the drums run them thru maelstroms filter and fuck around with the filter the bottom 2 filter(forgot what hey were) it was the one with the minus somethin.. shit can t remember bit yeah one of those.. then turn the res up and fuck with the cutoff you will get a kick sound so strong you felt like someone did kick you in the nuts. Believe you me it rocks.. oh and then add some sturation or distortion
Message 42/42 19-Jan-05 @ 09:11 AM - RE: tip and tricks for pro-mixes
Am I safe to assume that since these tips were written, Prop have added the splitter to Reason to replace the use of Chorus on bypass?
Love to hear what Brett can do with the newer version of Reason.
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