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Original Message 1/28 29-Mar-03 @ 03:07 PM - modular synthesis

Broken Silence

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what exactly does a modular synthesiser do? example the nord modular etc?

i looked on the internet but could only find programming tips..

is the sound drastically different, or is it just a different layout or something?

thanks~

bs

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Message 2/28 30-Mar-03 @ 07:19 AM - RE: modular synthesis

michael babb

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with a modular, you can design a synthesizer using whatever modules are available (oscillators, lfo's, filters, effects, etc...) to you and route them anyway you want.

in the nords, you have a certain amount of DSP and each module takes a percentage of it. but within that, you can use as many osc's, filters,
and other modules as you want. you can make anything from analogish sounds to FM to drum machines and effect boxes and basically any kind of synthesized sounds you can think of.

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Message 3/28 30-Mar-03 @ 05:59 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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wow that's very interesting...so i guess it is harder to program?

is that why on the modular, all the knobs have no function? do you assign it with the keypad thing or something?

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Message 4/28 30-Mar-03 @ 11:41 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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its not really that difficult once you get your head around it. you need to have an understanding of synthesis and signal routing to know how the modules relate to one another to program basic patches. it can also get a lot more complex as you learn more about it.

all the knobs on the nord modulars are assigned within the patches to control whatever parameter you want.

i have a micromodular that i got about 6 months ago. my only previous experience with synthesizers was with soft synths and a korg poly800, electribes, etc...

anyway, if you put the time into learning it, it is a lot of fun and very educational.

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Message 5/28 31-Mar-03 @ 06:14 AM - RE: modular synthesis

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If you spent 5 hours with a real modular and a pile of patch cables, you would probably learn more about synthesis than a year of web surfing would get you.

Not to say that learning about it by reading isn't good. Sometimes it's all ya got. But you owe it to yourself to find a real breathing modular and go mad for an afternoon or evening.

The only drawback is that you will feel limited with pretty much every non-modular synth you ever use after that

psy

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Message 6/28 31-Mar-03 @ 03:45 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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heh that is prolly true psy..

thanks for the info both of ya ;P

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Message 7/28 31-Mar-03 @ 11:10 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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although there is a lot to be said for a well designed synth to work quickly with.

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Message 8/28 31-Mar-03 @ 11:59 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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oh, true dat.... [hugs nova]

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Message 9/28 01-Apr-03 @ 04:09 AM - RE: modular synthesis

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**wipes drool off his recently polished blue box of death

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Message 10/28 01-Apr-03 @ 06:10 AM - RE: modular synthesis

michael babb

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(...longs for virus C but still thrilled with 2 AN200's and 1 DX200)

yes its true. and i love them all.

the sequencers aren't all that, but they really do sound pretty good.

super cheap as well.

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Message 11/28 02-Apr-03 @ 09:23 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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nothing available today aside from a few expensive garage projects offer a true analog true modular system, PIA comes to mind as one of the few. Yet the new modelers like the nova, virus, and the waldorf, are even better in my opinion. Add multi-timbrality, midi, other forms of sysnthesis, built in effects, and a cheaper price and you have a successful formula.

But old analogs are still great

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Message 12/28 03-Apr-03 @ 02:52 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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Doepfer does.

-Craig

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Message 13/28 03-Apr-03 @ 10:09 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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There is more too. But obscure, hard to find let alone test if you wanna get it. There great sounding too. But what about the bang for the buck? Goos for studios too but not for shows.

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Message 14/28 04-Apr-03 @ 07:26 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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Oh, obviously. I wouldn't think of using a real modular with patchcords and shit live. I already have enough to keep straight in my head.

-Craig

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Message 15/28 05-Apr-03 @ 11:41 AM - RE: modular synthesis

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what about the forthcoming MOOG copy s/w synth - with cables! - that'll be fun

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Message 16/28 05-Apr-03 @ 01:47 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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The Aurturia? It's already around, and it sounds the dog's nadgers! At least the beta does. Hell, even Dr. Bob himself was impressed. However, why not take patch cords live? Something like a nice 2 panel of MOTM in an SKB pop-up rack, an Xbase, modded 606, ASR10 rack, Evolver, 1604, and a pair of mmt8's, and that would give probably one the best sounding live rigs on the planet with just about nothing irreplaceable, and better portability than my current live rig for the price of....a decent used car.

In all seriousness the price of MOTM's stuff is not that outrageous, especially if you take a little time to learn how to use a soldering iron, and build the modules yourself from kits over an extended period. If you look at the cost of each module, you could build a modular that would have more function and sound FAR better than an ms20 for less than the cost of one from most dealers. Ever heard MOTOM's stuff? It sounds AMAZING, as in rediclulously good. Granted, some of that stuff is VERY expensive per piece, and when you add up what you could spend on it, the sky is the limit, but then so is the types of sounds you could make.

It's not for everybody, and in fact for most serious songwriters, it's exactly the opposite of what you need, but if you're a knob tweeker and like to have originals sounds, there is nothing better than a real modular. Not even a Kyma system, MAX or Super Collider.

Ape

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Message 17/28 07-Apr-03 @ 04:39 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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I gots me a Nord Modular on the way!

Yaaayyy!!

-Craig

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Message 18/28 07-Apr-03 @ 05:48 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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sweeet- write a review or something on it :P

is it a micro?

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Message 19/28 07-Apr-03 @ 06:01 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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Nope, Nord Modular KB.. First generation KBs are being blown out for $995 at Nova Musik right now.

If anyone actually bothered to read the Clavia forum they'd know

-Craig

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Message 20/28 07-Apr-03 @ 09:02 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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wow that's very interesting...so i guess it is
harder to program?

well, the modular is great because there is
no limit on what sounds u can make when
you have 4 osclillators and 4 filters..also
mistakes could lead you to a new sound and
the fun...I was BLOWN away by the power of
the Moog VST Modular and I cant imagine well
i can how a analog synth going thru a moudlar
system will sound as compared to the moog
vst. Actually Im buying(savin up now) for a
modular system im getting
www.synthesizers.com and the good thing
about this company is that you can integrate
MOTM mods into this setup. The 3000.00ish
systems like MOTM and Wiardmodular are
great but I cant affford to sepnd that much.
....anyways Id love to see more young
producers to open their minds to analog
modular synthesis I dont want to hear music
10 years down the line that is completely
digital bu the analog vs digital question is
another topic. oh check out
www.modcan.com another analog modular
company...they have .mp3s to check out

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Message 21/28 10-Apr-03 @ 02:08 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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some of my fondest synthesis memories are of the hours upon hours i spent in the studio at school just messing around with the emu modular and moog system 15. my professor told me that when he recieved his Ph.D. in the mid eighties whoever was running the music department there decided that anything analog was obsolete and tried to dump everything and get a bunch of those newfangled dx7's and emulators. he was offered a huge c-series moog modular and a couple system 15's, a prophet 5 and an oberheim 4-voice all for a couple hundred dollars. he turned it down!!!:0

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Message 22/28 10-Apr-03 @ 05:53 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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Fuck me

Bet he's kicking himself now.

I've only had 4 hours or so with it but the Nord Modular is fantastic. The only thing that really sucks is that you have no idea what knob does what on the thing.. There are no labels and all the knobs are freely assignable..

I already got a nice 3-osc FM-ish pad going with the formant filter... A very cool sound that isn't possible with any analog I know of. It's going to take a while though before I really get my head around everything in there!

-Craig

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Message 23/28 11-Apr-03 @ 02:49 AM - RE: modular synthesis

michael babb

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the software editor for the nord has been a great learning tool for me.

but i have to stop thinking about the G2 version.
my truck has an oil leak.

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Message 24/28 11-Apr-03 @ 03:23 AM - RE: modular synthesis

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you gots a g2?

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Message 25/28 11-Apr-03 @ 02:08 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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Nope, mine's a g1 keyboard.

-Craig

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Message 26/28 11-Apr-03 @ 02:37 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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god those things look sweet

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Message 27/28 07-May-03 @ 04:42 PM - RE: modular synthesis

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Hi,

If you want a 'REAL' modular, take a look at these modules ;- http://www.oakleysound.co.uk
you can buy them pre-assembled or as kits (cheaper)...

Paul

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Message 28/28 08-May-03 @ 04:50 AM Edit: 08-May-03 | 06:38 AM - RE: modular synthesis

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Yeah, that's kinda cute, but here's the real stuff:

http://www.synthtech.com/motm.html

If you're gonna go with new modules, this stuff is pretty much as nice as it gets. Other companies like Wiard are also doing some really nice modules, and Serge is still kick-ass, but I've got a friend with these MTOM modules and OMG they sound SOOOOO sick. So stinky, warm, fat, defined, clean, and just what the witch doctor ordered.

Ape

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