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Original Message 1/14 27-Oct-03 @ 12:24 AM - that gritty sound

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LosDorados.mp3

Hi folks,
Download this clip and listen to this nice GRITTY sound! I'm very curious about what kind of synthesis they have used.
I guess it easily can be made on any VA-synt (by anyone's grandmother :-) But i've just discovered my intrest in creating those.. crispy wizzy noises.
So how do they make this sound??

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Message 2/14 27-Oct-03 @ 12:27 AM - RE: that gritty sound

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Btw, the track is: GMS vs D-tek - Los Dorados

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Message 3/14 27-Oct-03 @ 12:58 AM Edit: 27-Oct-03 | 12:59 AM - RE: that gritty sound

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Yeah, I really like those too! Sounds veryu Virus'ish but yer right tho- prolly any VA.. dunno, maybe just a saw, hpf, and modulate the pitch with the env. filter or sumtin. There has been some explanation in these threads some time ago by influx (I thought...). Maybe someone else can say exactly.

-M-

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Message 4/14 27-Oct-03 @ 02:02 AM - RE: that gritty sound

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sounds like there might be a tiny bit of bit reduction on there, which when used properly makes a filter movement sound like its talking

no idea what kind of synth...but...it definitely sounds like a high pass filter as well

doesnt sound all that gritty to me

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Message 5/14 27-Oct-03 @ 03:09 AM - RE: that gritty sound

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Im guessing Filter Overdrive, Distortion, Highpass Filter/s, High resonance, detuned saw wave/pwm pulse, bit reduction, maybe a tad of phasing?

I've made some patches on the virus with FM that sound kinda similar too..

but then again my nova tackles these kinds of sounds all the time with that loverly distortion

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Message 6/14 27-Oct-03 @ 07:02 AM - RE: that gritty sound

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sounds very familiar to that sound from spawn that someone was tryin' to day long long time ago (psy got pretty close).

anyway.. i find that the talking effect is best achieved by using rate reduce (on the virus) along with band pass filter movements. i would guess small bit of shaper saturation + rate reduce + bp filter env.

-j

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Message 7/14 27-Oct-03 @ 09:01 AM - RE: that gritty sound

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hah! it actually does sound like spawn! ok...

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Message 8/14 27-Oct-03 @ 11:51 PM - RE: that gritty sound

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yessss.... i love this sound, too. And yeah, it was me that posted the spawn track before, but have never been really happy with how close I've gotten it.

Anyway, I would experiment with dual bandpass filters where you modulate both the cutoff freq of each filter as well as the seperation between the two filter cutoff points. This will make it "speak"

For the growl, I would mess about with square waves with pulse width modulation. Basically instead of a 50/50 square wave you want more like a 10/90 one, with the smaller percentage being the rising side of the wave. If this doesn't make sense to you let me know and I'll try to elaborate. But I often get a grittier wave this way than compared to saw waves.

Finally, this one sounds like it has some chorus or possibly unison on it. But generally these kinds of touches are thrown in for individual notes to accent.

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Message 9/14 28-Oct-03 @ 12:03 PM - RE: that gritty sound

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Thanks for your replies! i will spare some time and see if i'm able to come up with something like it on my Prophecy (which is the only va-synth i have at my disposal).

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Message 10/14 28-Oct-03 @ 12:38 PM - RE: that gritty sound

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Prophecy is niiice.

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Message 11/14 28-Oct-03 @ 11:30 PM - RE: that gritty sound

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I think its a supersaw- i'm fucking with my JP right now and the on board distortion truley blows, but it is sounding really similar with just a basic supersaw with some detuning and distortion...I can upload a sample if you want, but it's not gonna sound as similar due to the shitty distortion.

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Message 12/14 30-Oct-03 @ 12:21 AM - RE: that gritty sound

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yummmmmmmmy, a proph...

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Message 13/14 30-Oct-03 @ 07:08 AM - RE: that gritty sound

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sounds like Korg VA to me... I've made sounds like that on my MS2000... it's the distortion and a bandpass... I don't think it's too tricky, but hey... shrug. detuned sawtooths through a band pass with distortion... LOVE all that texture you get... mmmmm

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Message 14/14 30-Oct-03 @ 06:48 PM - RE: that gritty sound

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hey,
well, can't listen to the sound right now, but my cheap-ass tip to grit (on a virus.. but probably whatever as well) is:

-filter with decent amount of res
-S&H lfo with the rate set VERY high
-cutoff modulated by the lfo by a very small amount

sigh...
raigan

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