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Original Message 1/55             08-Dec-05  @  01:39 AM   -   Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

2nd mouse

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I've had my tracks hosted here for over a month now. One of them has been played 147 times , but I've yet to have anyone leave a message to say if they even liked it.
7161 doesnt have a very welcoming vibe , and I got an " I'm alright Jack " feeling from here.
This message will probably be sneered at , but if there are a lot of people getting that sense about 7161 , people will feel alienated and the numbers will dwindle as they go to graze on other pastures.
This is the first time I've been back here in about 3 weeks and theres not a single review of any of my tracks. I have them based elsewhere , and there isn't this kinda problem at those sites

Just my 2 cents -------------------- 2ndMOUSE



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Message 2/55             08-Dec-05  @  06:32 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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belated welcome to 7161......one cold siberian outpost did u say?
i always wear mittens when logging on.
posting a track doesn't oblige anyone to review your track.
DOZENS of new and old members are constantly posting tracks here every week.
if you're serious about getting feedback you can announce a track in the tracks forum...don't title your thread "new track"...or "another new one from me" as that sort of originality will get you little notice....deservedly i might add.
say who you are or the name of your track.
people are more vain than gracious so you might try doing what you yourself are saying others aren't...which is actually reviewing other peoples' music. have you yourself reviewed anyone's work here?
it's amazing how many peeps drop in wanting feedback but never give any themselves.
by reviewing others' works you almost oblige them to reciprocate.
this is how cliques and mutual admiration societies are formed....not to mention political parties and the entire country of wales....better known as the chat.
when asking for feedback provide a link so people don't have to WORK to find your song just so they can hear it.
always mind your manners.
social skills is coolness here as you've already observed.

don't just dream it...be it.




mcc> aka cLowNsiTTerz



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Message 3/55             08-Dec-05  @  09:30 AM     Edit: 08-Dec-05  |  09:33 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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Message 4/55             08-Dec-05  @  11:23 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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well now that depends wether you want to join a site to get feedback... sites such as Myspace which seem to me to be nothing more than a mutual masturbation society... or wether you join a site to get decent free hosting with deep linking ALLOWED and itunes feeds etc.... in other words:

SOME sites are coded to force the users or their fans/freinds to visit the site or to use embedded players on their pages carrying adverts etc in order to listen to their music... because they rely on spamming people to death with adverts to make money -

On the other hand we've gone to extraordinary lengths to NOT carry adverts, pop-ups or banners; or interim "You will be forwarded after this message from our sponsor" pages, etc etc

Funnily enuff we were talking about this last night, me and a mate who plays bass in a band... he was talking about Myspace... that he'd visited the site to check it out etc, and he said; "No-one at Myspace is going to go to your gigs tho"

and that is that sadly... I know some other "We're all happy wappy 'mates' in cyberspace together" sites... endless 'buddy' stuff all day, people who dont know each other cringingly kissing each others asses all hoping they will somehow get more 'fans' by doing so... trying to coerce people to come to their gigs etc thru mutual online buddy-systems... then you go to a gig of one of these bands (which i've done, just to see if all the hype results in people at gigs).... does anyone comes to the gig?.... Nope.. no-one.



The biggest cringe I saw was some 'anti-terrorism' gig/event that was trying to be organised on one user-music site after the bombings in London.... we all care so much etc, and one band comes on and says "Yes, but if we pull this off, you'll get the chance to play in front of thousands of people, it should be worth supporting because of that!"

lol... ooooh.. so y'know, if a person is going to support a political agenda ONLy because they think it'll mean exposure for their band, that is quite sad.

I think there's a danger in people assuming that collecting 'web-mates' online is somehow going to help them get recognised... the fact is, those people are just themselves after the same thing, and round and round it goes.... and who wins in all this?.. ADVERTISERS... the corporates & their minions

meanwhile, those who do NOT spend all day and night online deperately trying to gain 'virtual fans' are NOT going out to get gigs... are NOT going out meet people for real.... are NOT getting their shit together in any other way.

if you beleive in that system, fine... I dont... and i think it's really sad that so-called musicians are all busy asskissing corporate advertising.

we already saw this before with the old mp3.com, it didnt get anyone recognised then and i dont beleive it will now with the new 'mp3.com' which is Myspace.


To give you an idea... the band I play in is at the top of the video chart on 2 large-ish sites, with great reviews; all the reviews say the band is awesome and "Why aren't you signed?" etc

does it mean anyone comes to gigs?.. nope!... Do I care about those sites or the fact the video is at the top of the charts?... nope!... Not because it's not nice to be appreciated, but because realisticaly OTHER work is required to get that band a deal... so I could spend 4 hours a day on music sites 'buddying people up' and all that, and I know people who actualy DO do that... they spend hours daily online maintaining relationships with cyberforums etc, and each hour they spend online is another hour they are NOT doing anything else to get the band going..

The trouble is frankly there is just TOO many bands out there, it's so easy to get a 'virtual band' together now... but the reality of doing gigs etc & actualy getting OUT of cyberspace is much harder.

So these 'virtual bands' turn up to gigs with no gear, do a crappy set to 20 mates who came from their college (4 'mates' for each member etc which means 4 GF's and each GF brings a mate who brings her BF etc etc)... they finish and they all piss off.

I remember being at one gig handing our flyers and I offer a flyer to this girl - "Oh no thanks", she says... "I only support this band"

lol... in other words "No i dont go to gigs and discover bands, I only go out to the gigs of my mate's band" - how fucking sad is that!?... and THAT is the reality of the new music fans, they want corp approved bands served up which are approved, they cant tell what they like, they dont go and see bands, they just choose from corp fodder: The Kieser Chiefs, Franz Ferdinand, Coldplay, etc etc,... otherwise, music doesnt exist for them.


So they play some gigs to mates while they are at college... then they leave college & start work and the reality kicks in, some people leave the band & that's that... something you do at college.... "be in a band".. fine, nothing wrong with that, but y'know...



As for dance-music... for every 20 people making bedroom tracks and spending all day & night online trying to garner 'fans', there is 16 year olds out there taking their CD to clubs and parties and raves, getting it played, doing PA's (if mebbe it is rap/hiphop/grime), pressing & distributing whites on-foot round shops and to deejays & mags etc. THEY are the ones who might break thru, not the ones sitting around online saying "Oh look I now have 57 freinds in my profile!!"..... and all those freinds are only on your page cos they want YOU to go to THEIR page.

I dunno, call me jaded   - lol but what the fuck is wrong with people these days that they cant get up and do their own thing.


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If you like we could implement a new deal, 'prizes for reviews' like on some of the corp sites... people do reviews to gain points ("What do points make?... PRIZES!!")...then they get server-space to allow them to post more songs


we just give you that space, end of.

I wouldnt mind adding in some sort of fun thing like getting prizes for cool reviews, but that would be to encourage young reviewers, rather than to gain webspace we already hand out... it'd be a laugh, nothing more, but we've got other pans in the fire to finish first before we can go out and find a sponsor. or even think about anything like that.

actualy if the truth be known, I only added that 'review' thing into artist pages here because we were approached by a 'marketting person' back in the summer who claimed they could raise a sponsor for the site, and they forwarded a business-plan to us.... we said "Well, if you can do it, do it", and we added the reviews thing for them... they flaked in the end as it goes, but whatever, I leftr it in just in case.

actualy I noticed some reviews added for some of the people at the top of the chart right now.... decent reviews too... so it does get used a bit

I guess you aren't communicating a desire to be reviewed very much mebbe 2ndMouse?.... I know your name from the site, but I dont recall you being here that long, and i dont recall lots of requests for reviews by you... But i dont think a good way to get people to review you is to pop up and complain you're not being reviewed



lemme just remind myself of your music 2ndMouse... hang on

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 5/55             08-Dec-05  @  11:32 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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kilo, man... i love your rants  

just few days ago i ran into the one about the old landlady who was coming to your dub jams etc... *rofl*... excellent stories, you should publish one day ;)



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Message 6/55             08-Dec-05  @  11:40 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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of course clay always moans and knocks the site in his posts   - ... people keep on signing up tho, every day... I would concede that we need more guitar bands tho. Otherwise I like the mix of music.

But 2ndmouse... if you just dump a choon or 2 on a site then bugger off for 3 weeks and come back expecting reviews, i guess you need to communicate with people more mebbe? - as Clay says, you want people to do what you are not preparared to do yourself which doesnt make a whole lot of sense. If you review a track, that review links to your page... the more reviews you do the more links to you appear on other track pages. That's how other sites work.

etc

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 7/55             08-Dec-05  @  11:50 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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oh yeah Milan..... Mrs Bertha Marx... lol, she was wacky man & she used to partake in a spliff on those dub-jam nights!!... not bad for 70-something years old (she looked more like 90-something tho) lol

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Message 8/55             08-Dec-05  @  12:02 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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yeah Mouse.... well, first comment is the tunes (at least the first one listed JUST THE TRIGGER I NEEDED) is VERY quiet... it's mastered VERY low in volume - great vocals tho

great music tho man, very detailed, you've put alot of work into it - it's good stuff... my fave is that 'Barber-esque' track 'My Errant self' - great track!

so, you have the quality, now what?... it's intelligent music... have you mailed out to any labels/radio shows?... gigs?.. can you do a live set/pa? etc... what's your plan?

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 9/55             08-Dec-05  @  01:01 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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if you beleive in that system, fine... I dont...


Hey, you forget about the seniors in the forum like me, who are either definitely to old for the real thing or not looking good enough for a real gig ;)

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sites such as Myspace which seem to me to be nothing more than a mutual masturbation society...


Very seldom you get an honest review. On Harmony-Central I received the following opinion about my NIne Inch Evolver Remix :

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Wow, I must feel like a MAJOR DICK tonight.
I wouldn't even affiliate myself with NIN with the mix in this post. I mean, shit, are we here to freakin promulgate mediocrity? It smells like a demo, sounds like a demo, looks like a demo...you get the picture.

No offense guy....I don't even know you....but....don't think this is a CONVINCING demo of ANYTHING!

MOVE me if you want to SELL me.

I don't have a PEK, but I wouldn't buy one based on your demo. No offense meant here....but get your phukkin skills in line before you go cold calling this stuff on serious buyers like the posters on this board.

We all know the PEK is serious EQPT. Surprise us. Thrill us. .........oh........and don't bore the original artist.

I would be wanting Trent Reznor to be completely RAPTURED with my shit upon hearing it if I was you.

Are you posting here in case he reads it? NO....but wouldn't you just CRAP yourself if he did and LIKED IT????

Don't worry....it didn't happen.

Different strokes dude. Have a nice day.


***Please forgive me if I wasn't "user friendly" in this post....it's been a long week and "approachable" isn't in my dictionary anymore.



There are real discussions, as you can see ;)



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Message 10/55             08-Dec-05  @  02:17 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

The Moujik

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I've always thought that DT/7161 had managed to achived a good balance; there doesn't seem to be the hit & run spamming of "my latest trance track" that their used to be, and equally there doesn't seem to be the reluctance to review you music unless you're a "regular" that there used to be.

I agree with K about myspace etc. - it can be a useful tool, but (for me) only in the same way that DT/7161 is.


Chris

Oh - the other thing I wanted to mention was that it seems a bit quieter here than usual - hence my (poor) picture of a tumbleweed ^^^



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Message 11/55             08-Dec-05  @  04:21 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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hehe Bluescreen... you got pwned!... look, at the end of the day we dont have a bunch of investors breathing down our necks... i wonder what'll happen to myspace, cos with mp3.com they found it impossible to fund the high membership levels once it got huge membership.

You have to remember, we have no money at all.

The track-space upgrades will be opened within the next few days (either this week or early next week - they have just asked us to tweak a few things like a 'refund policy' page and card icons etc which we've now done, and i just need them to do another test then it goes live.

if we can get even 100 members who need proper 'un-cluttered by adverts' webspace/fileserving which is setup to admin mp3 streaming files etc then fine we can give the first 100 people a free extra 100 or more mb - I just want to see it like a co-op of people who want to share a server. Upgrade users also will get a free streaming video slot which I have to code in and that bit should be setup in january.

if after that we can then raise some more capital dosh, sure, we'll advertise a bit in selective places, have a radio-premises for 24hr broadcasting, run more competitions/prizes & get in some extra reviewers etc - also we're going to do domain names for users Homepages which IS setup and being tested. (you'll also get 1 email box at your domain)

apart from that i just want to see some good comps of unsigned bands.

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 12/55             08-Dec-05  @  06:04 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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I'm with Clay on this one.. will eat my dinner and take some time for that big post of K's  .



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Message 13/55             08-Dec-05  @  09:18 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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lol at that review of Stefan's. EQPT? omfg... gimme a break!

really, who told you you know anything about sound eh?



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Message 14/55             08-Dec-05  @  09:24 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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where?

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 15/55             08-Dec-05  @  09:43 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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The Moujik wrote:

Ive always thought that DT/7161 had managed to achived a good balance; there doesnt seem to be the hit & run spamming of my latest trance track that their used to be, and equally there doesnt seem to be the reluctance to review you music unless youre a regular that there used to be.

I agree with K about myspace etc. - it can be a useful tool, but (for me) only in the same way that DT/7161 is.


Chris

Oh - the other thing I wanted to mention was that it seems a bit quieter here than usual - hence my (poor) picture of a tumbleweed ^^^


lol, i see now , anyways look, the site keeps moving on, people signup everyday, wtf

I dunno... mebbe I should put an ad' in Private Eye personals:

"If you type 'dance music' into google our site shows on page 1 or 2 out of xxx,000,000 pages - investor needed to add online music store"

today we're sitting alongside the BBC 'dance' section & Wikipedia, about rank 13 - i mean fug it.. that's gotta be worth a few bob in sales; we're turning over around 250-300k p.a for thomann in sales with no advertising at all.

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 16/55             08-Dec-05  @  09:48 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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Stefan = Bluescreen  



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Message 17/55             08-Dec-05  @  09:49 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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heh heh muaaaahahahha... hey, I just checked something after that post cos it jogged me m-m-m-m-memory! - 3 days ago i added the search term 'myspace' to the dancetech index page and today it's ranking on page 3 for the google search: 'dance music, myspace'

interesting... above Billboard mag anyways

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 18/55             08-Dec-05  @  09:59 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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lol at that review of Stefans. EQPT? omfg... gimme a break!

really, who told you you know anything about sound eh?


of which track?

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 19/55             09-Dec-05  @  01:01 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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*insert eyerolling emoticon here*

in that post where you said he got "pwnd" innit! that quote! innit!



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Message 20/55             09-Dec-05  @  02:28 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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chalk up another vote for "what you give is what you get"

I wrote a long ass rant at another site:

http://www.nubreaks.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=19477&s=1f3f3af0ba728063448d218dc7a2200e

and even that was blatantly ignored

fact is people are incredibly self-centered these days, and eventually even those who weren't initially become burned out on the lack of reciprocation

I am the latter. I quit. I stopped. fuck me for doin it, I know, but I did. hell I hardly even post here anymore, and don't even write music, and if I did, well...I figure if Im not gonna actively critique others why ask for it?

so, to the OP...contribute. youre just another small fish in a HUGE ocean, and everyone thinks theirs is "the shit" and it may well be, but until someone behaves as part of a community, why should they get any love? special? BAH!



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Message 21/55             09-Dec-05  @  02:49 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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u stopped makin music (?)

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 22/55             09-Dec-05  @  05:30 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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hehe k ya farkin alci...

yeah, it's been quite quiet around here. I, like a lot of people I assume, don't generally do reviews unless I have something recent up myself. Call it selfishness, human nature, whatever, but I been on a dry spell lately so.... no reviews

these things come and go in waves, and I try not to let myself get upset about it.

but yeah, if you don't post SOMEthing in the tracks forum, there's really no surprise you have no reviews. Usually people need a thread in which to post a review... and are reluctant to start one for a track unless it REALLY blows them away. In fact, I can't remember ever seeing a review thread that wasn't started by the artist.



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Message 23/55             09-Dec-05  @  08:56 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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on every track page, there's a button for adding a review, and a counter for total reviews. innit. no need to start a thread.

but aye, i don't review anything. too lazy. might do some over christmas when i'm bored at my mother's house.



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Message 24/55             09-Dec-05  @  01:28 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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well this is the issue isnt it... like i said, there's so many sites (inc' large ones where the user is hidden amongst too many artists so the 'visitor to artist' ratio is often lower than for smaller sites), so many bands, so many 'artists' & producers... and that's totaly outside the 'biz' (no distribution, deal etc)

You 'could' spend 24 hours a day for the rest of your life listening to unsigned acts online and you'd never hear a fraction of them.

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 25/55             09-Dec-05  @  10:29 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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k wrote:

u stopped makin music (?)


yup. basically

could be just a "pause" really...havent even tried anything since last what...april? may? variety of influences...but I actually sold my Virus, monitors, 828MKII...

I do still have a decent PC and a Novation XStation so its not like I _cant_...just dont feel the urge. I guess I wasnt all that passionate about it? dunno...long story. Id have to pay a therapist to listen to it



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Message 26/55             09-Dec-05  @  11:17 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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2nd Mouse, who do you make music for?



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Message 27/55             09-Dec-05  @  11:22 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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hey Influx, don't give on music patna!!! You got quality stuff and your time will come, stay strong.

Peace.



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Message 28/55             10-Dec-05  @  01:29 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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I appreciate the compliment. glad you liked what you heard, but...my time will come?

sorry, I disagree. not even sure what "my time" would be...recognition? I dunno, theres a saying regarding success...something about things taking 5 years to pan out...Ive been at it for far longer, had more people flake on me than I care to acknowledge anymore, more experience with TALK than I can comprehend, and nothings come of it

doesnt mean I'll never "write music" again, but the idea of public release...and any sort of income from it...its 99.9% fantasy imo.



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Message 29/55             10-Dec-05  @  01:39 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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Aww say it isnt' true influx.

i still rock out on your tunes quite a bit.



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Message 30/55             10-Dec-05  @  02:58 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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he's right, most artists make a pitance.. dont go into music for money (or any art for that matter)

then there's the music 'biz' - y'know Simon Cowell started out doing a song with 2 glove puppets didnt he? - but that's not about artistic intergrity etc, that's making 'PRODUCT' to sell to make money - different

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Message 31/55             10-Dec-05  @  06:07 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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it sure is nice to see people chiming in on the occasional discussion.
shit i might even have to take me mittens off here.
you k....you rock when you tawk beyond the merest utterances


more on that upgraded-users offer!!!!!




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Message 32/55             10-Dec-05  @  07:45 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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.Ive been at it for far longer, had more people flake on me than I care to acknowledge anymore, more experience with TALK than I can comprehend, and nothings come of it.


I hear ya on that one, sooo much bullshite!

I've had people tell me they could get me a job sitting on my ars in New York producing hip hop music for $200,000.00 a year...blah blah blah...they have conections...blah blah blah.

But as far as making music goes, I have no choice in the matter...it's just what I do.

We're artist.



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Message 33/55             10-Dec-05  @  03:44 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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there's always gon be people who want to pretend they're someone connected and can do you favors if you squirm and sweat and drool enough and get them some cocaine....which for some odd reason they can't seem to get as connected as they are.
you do music because you love doing it and can't keep yourself from those constant moments of discovery and joy that come as a result of your manipulations of the very tools which you love and adore and fondle and caress every day as if they were your baby's ass.

disappointment as a result of anything due to any outside motivations for making music beyond the sheer act of making noise simply signifies that one's intentions weren't what they probably should've been to begin with.
it's like are you gonna fuck your girl cause it's gon make you rich and famous?
no> you fondle and fuck her all morning because it makes you happy...it makes her happy...and the noise is a joyous one.

priorities...pureness of intent and/or the lack of it...it never fails to reveal itself.
check out the new nin.
you wonder why so much music today just so absolutely sucks.
it's just become a professional circus.....with more clowns than daredevils.....
and not even funny ones at that.



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and what's scary is that trent is actually one of "the more talented ones".



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and whats scary is that trent is actually one of the more talented ones.



Yeah, I don't like the new NIN...it started going down hill after the downward spiral.

But I respect him as an artist, just like I respect Jonny Cash as an artist and a man...even tho' it's not really my cup O tea.



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Message 36/55             10-Dec-05  @  08:39 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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good philosophy mr.me - the upgrades'll kick in next week clay

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Message 37/55             10-Dec-05  @  10:13 PM     Edit: 10-Dec-05  |  10:16 PM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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edit. forget it. I dont feel like being attacked yet again by the omniscient "man called clay." Every chance you get you take a dig at someone. certainly dont need that bullshit



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i wasn't jabbing at anyone personally though your comment served as a catalyst for my remarks.
we've all had motivations for doing music which went beyond purely doing music.
i know i have at times harbored such illusions myself.
that doesn't make one bad>
i do certainly enjoying seeing people with good musical intentions and the skills to make good noise make a little money and...hey hey...whooopeee.....have a good time etc.
that's why i buy music...so maybe some of my artists that i admire might actually know a little financial reward for their efforts....besides i like to have some to hear occasionally.
there ain't a kid in the world who hasn't dreamed of being one of the beatles or back street boys or
led zeppelin or limp bizkit or nirvana or nwa or....or...ummm...the chieftains.....whatever!

the problem today is that this last generation is so steeped in television and therefor the mindset of the fucks who program our culture.....
that they've developed this notion that anyone with acid pro or ableton live can mash loop construction kits and be recognized as a viable creative entity...hero etc.
....and quite immediately.
it's insane how often i'll see someone who' basically munched together their very first set of pre-fab loops and wants people to put energy into listening and commenting on their paste-job.

but basically it's like this...one can always recognize when someone is a true servant to sound...because the music is always coming out of them and sometimes way more than you can even begin to know. the insatiable need and desire to constantly push and pull and extract what sense can be had out of mangling various bits of beats sound and noises in between.....
when THAT is all-important......everything else on tv radio or your high-school lunch-line is irrelevent.

like trent says..there's no fucking you.....there's just fucking me.
of course he forgot to mention the music.
which was always his problem...he could never see beyond himself.....which is why there's rarely any true joy in the man's music.
respect nevertheless....for he did what he did....and he did it on mtv.



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i think the time i most truly questioned my own motivations for doing music was during the 4+ years i managed/produced eoa...a local 4-man rap unit....and put up with so much bs...in-fighting back-stabbing and game-playing and i always told myself this is what goes on when playing the game. little voice telling me...it's just what you gotta go through G....and this after having been in numerous bands myself.
finally i had enough.....
especially after one gig down in mexico when they ended the night with a track i did which they liked but was definitely not of their style.
the whole place went off and everyone came out of the small arena swept down to the floor to dance to my shit which was funny....but
this kinda actually made my boys mad....and oh well...they said they would never play the song again.
it was gettin time to claim my own for what it was....back to my cavern of joy.

thusly i was on the trail again...in search of the sound i'll have never ever heard....til the day i die.




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there are times.....however...which sometimes seems like all the time...when i am intercepted by those sorts of sounds which are familiar to me...which are dear to me..and near to me...and those sounds can bring pleasant and familiar joy and they do often occupy my interest to no end.
sometimes those sounds don't even come from an instrument.
nevertheless the search goes on.



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ooops...red light.
thanks for the listen and getting it maarty>



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well, did a search again just now in google for 'dance music' and out of 125,000,000 pages we've moved back up to position 8 on page-1 from position 13 or 14 last week on page-2 - it moves around

i tried a search for: 'free song hosting' - result = page-1 position-6!!

lol - if you search for: 'dance music, myspace', we are position number-1 on page 1, lol

search for 'free samples' we drop down out of 61,000,000 pages to page-4, not bad tho

etc... damn, we gotta capitalise on this next year. companies kill for these sort of results

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and still no response from the op



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oooh! k make us the pretty existentialist dance site we were born to be and i promise to try to be a good.....well....

i'll try to behave.



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what happened to my no-avatar avatar?



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Message 46/55             23-Dec-05  @  11:27 AM   -   RE: Doesnt anyone ever give reviews ?

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Do we have a ship ? When can we actually pay for this thing ? This is a scam right ?, You don't really exist or are a nubian princess about to ask for money .



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roit!... back from freezing me chuds off on the Welsh mountains *brrrrrr*

yes, it'll be going live next week after new years, i didnt get time to do it before christmas due to college essays having to be in on time.

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college ? essays ? i tought you were an old person. funny. keep up the good work anyway.



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he's a mature student



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shat it!

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hes a mature student



you go K, show 'em what you got !!





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listening to your tracks now, lovely.

keep up the good work.

Sorry for not commenting before, but i'm big in Japan.



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Listening to Heist right now. Awesome !! more please



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Hiest is a badd-ass track man I love the backbeat drumming break thing & the intro bassline... I'd like to see more of that bassline tbh, why doesnt it return?... Overall the whole track is simple & exciting and keeps you interested.

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