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Subject: E5000
Original Message 1/26 27-Nov-99 @ 06:39 AM - E5000
Now there's been couple of weeks since Emu announced the new machine but has anyone bought it yet?
I sold my A3000 so I can buy E5000 but should I just buy the beast or wait some review?
Any comments
I sold my A3000 so I can buy E5000 but should I just buy the beast or wait some review?
Any comments
Message 2/26 27-Nov-99 @ 07:53 AM - RE: E5000
The only prob. I can see with it is there r only 4 outs and an extra 8 r listed £459 (ouch). Sure is a great piece of kit though........Ironically, one of me mates was considering selling his Ultra 4 an A3000 - the Emu isn`t as good a soundprocessor as the Yammy, but I think the Ultra is a far better machine 4 basing your studio around.....there have been a few reviews about I`m not sure if SOS have yet, but check the above link anyway.....May actually b worth saving up a bit of extra dough and getting the 6400 Ultra cos once you`ve bought the extra outs 4 the 5000, you`ll probably have paid more..........good luck anyway.
Message 4/26 28-Nov-99 @ 03:31 PM - RE: E5000
does it? I knew they`re gonna come preloaded with some sounds but I just assumed Emu would revise the rest of the Ultra range to bring everything into line. Maybe they wont, in order 2 make the 5000 seem more attractive and steal some more of the Akai audience......
Message 5/26 28-Nov-99 @ 04:26 PM - RE: E5000
There is an online copy of the E5000 product spec's and manual in PDF format at the E-mu site. It looks like a long overdue entry into the mid-range market from E-mu that *finally* uses the EOS operating system. Previously, only the upper mid-range and high-end models used the EOS OS. EOS has a pretty solid history of being updated wheres as the old Emax and ESI series had a finite number of OS upgrades before they were replaced by new model entries. The MSRP is $1695 - not too bad - and there are a fair number of hardware upgrades available too:
http://www.emu.com
I've not heard the built in effects - I'm certain they're decent but, I don't know that they are "exotic" sounding as say the A3000 or ASR-X PRO.
regards,
jondl
http://www.emu.com
I've not heard the built in effects - I'm certain they're decent but, I don't know that they are "exotic" sounding as say the A3000 or ASR-X PRO.
regards,
jondl
Message 6/26 28-Nov-99 @ 04:51 PM - RE: E5000
If the FX on it r the same as on the 6400, then they will b absolute shit.........saggier than my gran....but the RFX chip is coming out soon and that sounds a bit special 2 say the least
Message 7/26 29-Nov-99 @ 02:48 PM - RE: E5000
it'll certainly be interesting to see how the quality is upheld now they are under Creative's wing...
Message 8/26 30-Nov-99 @ 12:40 PM - RE: E5000
Hi all,
In regards to the ADAT i/o, none of the Ultras come standard with it. It is an option. If you have ADAT capability on a digital mixer (like a Yamaha 01/v), the need for the 8 analog outputs is not necessary.
The biggest differences it seems on this from the other Ultras is the analog outs and the inability to make it 128 voice polyphony. I'm considering buying one myself as, for the price of an E4XT Ultra and a few bucks more (like $50-100), I can buy 2 e5000's and get 128 voice polyphony with 8 outputs (4 for each unit) but 256 Mb RAM capability. Eventually, I may buy a second one.
One thing I find interesting is that, on the E-mu website, it states that there are 3 external slots and 5 internal slots for expansion on the E-5K. The other Ultras only list 3 external slots and *1* internal slot. I'm wondering if E-mu has plans for this unit and if a newer Ultra sampler (possibly at NAMM?) will have expansion capabilities not possible with older Ultras.
FVicente
In regards to the ADAT i/o, none of the Ultras come standard with it. It is an option. If you have ADAT capability on a digital mixer (like a Yamaha 01/v), the need for the 8 analog outputs is not necessary.
The biggest differences it seems on this from the other Ultras is the analog outs and the inability to make it 128 voice polyphony. I'm considering buying one myself as, for the price of an E4XT Ultra and a few bucks more (like $50-100), I can buy 2 e5000's and get 128 voice polyphony with 8 outputs (4 for each unit) but 256 Mb RAM capability. Eventually, I may buy a second one.
One thing I find interesting is that, on the E-mu website, it states that there are 3 external slots and 5 internal slots for expansion on the E-5K. The other Ultras only list 3 external slots and *1* internal slot. I'm wondering if E-mu has plans for this unit and if a newer Ultra sampler (possibly at NAMM?) will have expansion capabilities not possible with older Ultras.
FVicente
Message 9/26 01-Dec-99 @ 02:45 AM - RE: E5000
Hi,
Just to add to my previous post,
I think that E-mu has a typo on their site. The e6400 Ultra lists as having only 1 internal expansion slot. I believe it really is 7. That datasheet says 7 but the features list on the main e6400 product info page says 1. Since the e5000 is supposed to be a scaled down version, this makes sense.
FVicente
Just to add to my previous post,
I think that E-mu has a typo on their site. The e6400 Ultra lists as having only 1 internal expansion slot. I believe it really is 7. That datasheet says 7 but the features list on the main e6400 product info page says 1. Since the e5000 is supposed to be a scaled down version, this makes sense.
FVicente
Message 10/26 10-Dec-99 @ 08:04 PM - RE: E5000
well.. it auto samples, truncates & normalises samples as you record... nice... 64 note tops (unexpandable) -
option cards are: an extra midi port /sockets.. Dig i/o, wordclock, or the adat option 16 out 8 in... also there's a 4 out upgrade to 8 balanced poly outs.. you can also plugin a pc keyboard for naming samples & patches etc etc -
with the synthesis at this e-mu level, (and that goes for all e-mu samplers going right back) it's also a synth, cos the features for synthesis are up to it as always but with more power as you go up the range, also e-mu's disks have great sounds as well as thousands of imitations all mapped and ready to play on library - it also reads akai series emax2, roly s700 cdrom or scsi.... plus you can get rom bank upgrades ready to go presets & waves... the E5000 has zplane & morphing filters etc sweep filters, 2 lfo's & 3 6 way adsr's phaser & flanger etc.. plus the fx remember... which are included not option.
Plus, you got a flash memory option, 16 or 32 mb, sounds can be saved and organised on the flash... (for newbies, the flashram saves on powerdown, so when you boot, the sounds are ready to go...) that'd be no-doubt expensive, but it's be good for live work
also... there is the ability to add in a mega synth !!!.... two rom option upgrades- ,... each with 500 presets from either the E-synth , or the Orbit/planet-Phatt range...
the other
there's a big sample mangling big similar to the yamaha beat randomising which throws out variations chooped and re-ordered etc.. the e-mu version allows stuff like re-grooving sliced grooves etc etc - lots of fx & wierdness
50 pin SCSI is standard - balanced analog stereo In & 4 balanced poly outs all on 1/4"
well fuck !! - all in all, youve got the pretty much full-blown synthesis certainly up to making the oddests variations or loading up some of the best 'classic' imitations in the samopler world... e-mu samplers really hum as synths beleive me... theyve been at it for years, and it's pretty easy with their rptocol to grasp... once you define the keyboard area you want to treat, you ust select a function, and by assigning that function to a list of sources, you create routings for pretty much a well covered set of options for creative use... you can easily assign a sweep filter to velocity or aftertouch in a twinkle and/or assign the filter cutoff or res to annother controller whatever... it's quite easily laid out & logical on e-mu's... I'd say they are the easiest to learn and get to work with of all the makes -
add to that the ability to add-in 2 quality major synths, and then create tracks assigning parts to up to 16 outs for mixing or direct to ana adat equipt digital mixer in's... plus the fx... pretty damned powerful i'd say.. !!... i know e-mu's interface style, and it is very user freindly usually... i guess this will be no excetion... (it also does resampling with fx ! - hello !!...
you may see it as a downside to get only 4mb ram icluded, but my god, that's PLENTY to turn out a storming tune, even without the additional optional synth-roms... maybe the poly might seem a bit low given th rest of it is so well spec'd.. but again 64 notes is alot if the style is shart stabbing things as opposed to lots of huge layered pads evolving... you might want a bit more memory for a gig, but again 4mb is enuff for a set if you plan... remember with samplers you can compose, then create production disks for live work, that just load up keyma's of presets that are actually going to be played/sounded... that way you save wastefull top & bottom end samples which are covering parts of the scale you don't play - ok, it only saves small memory in most cases, but it all add's up, reduces load times & what have you... also, jugle with the sample rates,,, creates WAY more time on 4mb... Roland X0X drum sounds sampled at 30k or so... fine , save memory alot... same with vinyl loops... in alot of cases sampling them at 20k (11k playback is plenty - 10k is pretty damned high in the hearing range... it's the very top end sparkle on a microverb -1 reverb area... high... anyways - for the newbies, 4mb is plenty to create quality music without an upgrade... nice one E-mu...
option cards are: an extra midi port /sockets.. Dig i/o, wordclock, or the adat option 16 out 8 in... also there's a 4 out upgrade to 8 balanced poly outs.. you can also plugin a pc keyboard for naming samples & patches etc etc -
with the synthesis at this e-mu level, (and that goes for all e-mu samplers going right back) it's also a synth, cos the features for synthesis are up to it as always but with more power as you go up the range, also e-mu's disks have great sounds as well as thousands of imitations all mapped and ready to play on library - it also reads akai series emax2, roly s700 cdrom or scsi.... plus you can get rom bank upgrades ready to go presets & waves... the E5000 has zplane & morphing filters etc sweep filters, 2 lfo's & 3 6 way adsr's phaser & flanger etc.. plus the fx remember... which are included not option.
Plus, you got a flash memory option, 16 or 32 mb, sounds can be saved and organised on the flash... (for newbies, the flashram saves on powerdown, so when you boot, the sounds are ready to go...) that'd be no-doubt expensive, but it's be good for live work
also... there is the ability to add in a mega synth !!!.... two rom option upgrades- ,... each with 500 presets from either the E-synth , or the Orbit/planet-Phatt range...
the other
there's a big sample mangling big similar to the yamaha beat randomising which throws out variations chooped and re-ordered etc.. the e-mu version allows stuff like re-grooving sliced grooves etc etc - lots of fx & wierdness
50 pin SCSI is standard - balanced analog stereo In & 4 balanced poly outs all on 1/4"
well fuck !! - all in all, youve got the pretty much full-blown synthesis certainly up to making the oddests variations or loading up some of the best 'classic' imitations in the samopler world... e-mu samplers really hum as synths beleive me... theyve been at it for years, and it's pretty easy with their rptocol to grasp... once you define the keyboard area you want to treat, you ust select a function, and by assigning that function to a list of sources, you create routings for pretty much a well covered set of options for creative use... you can easily assign a sweep filter to velocity or aftertouch in a twinkle and/or assign the filter cutoff or res to annother controller whatever... it's quite easily laid out & logical on e-mu's... I'd say they are the easiest to learn and get to work with of all the makes -
add to that the ability to add-in 2 quality major synths, and then create tracks assigning parts to up to 16 outs for mixing or direct to ana adat equipt digital mixer in's... plus the fx... pretty damned powerful i'd say.. !!... i know e-mu's interface style, and it is very user freindly usually... i guess this will be no excetion... (it also does resampling with fx ! - hello !!...
you may see it as a downside to get only 4mb ram icluded, but my god, that's PLENTY to turn out a storming tune, even without the additional optional synth-roms... maybe the poly might seem a bit low given th rest of it is so well spec'd.. but again 64 notes is alot if the style is shart stabbing things as opposed to lots of huge layered pads evolving... you might want a bit more memory for a gig, but again 4mb is enuff for a set if you plan... remember with samplers you can compose, then create production disks for live work, that just load up keyma's of presets that are actually going to be played/sounded... that way you save wastefull top & bottom end samples which are covering parts of the scale you don't play - ok, it only saves small memory in most cases, but it all add's up, reduces load times & what have you... also, jugle with the sample rates,,, creates WAY more time on 4mb... Roland X0X drum sounds sampled at 30k or so... fine , save memory alot... same with vinyl loops... in alot of cases sampling them at 20k (11k playback is plenty - 10k is pretty damned high in the hearing range... it's the very top end sparkle on a microverb -1 reverb area... high... anyways - for the newbies, 4mb is plenty to create quality music without an upgrade... nice one E-mu...
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