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Subject: Stereo Expansion
Original Message 1/13 27-Nov-00 @ 09:34 PM - Stereo Expansion
If I expand the drums the rest sounds crappy and things.
I would appreciate any advice on this matter. What do I have to think about?
Message 2/13 28-Nov-00 @ 02:04 AM - RE: Stereo Expansion
Message 3/13 28-Nov-00 @ 05:01 PM - RE: Stereo Expansion
Well... I don't have any real hardware delay units and stuff. I mostly use software.
I've found that it's really, really hard to keep a track balanced when using stereo expansion
Maybe I should add that I use cooledit pro for most reverb/delay effects.
Why is it so hard to keep everything balanced?
When try to create drums or basslines with a wide stereo field everything just start sounding crappy.
Not sure what to do =( I mainly try to create trance like tunes.
Message 4/13 28-Nov-00 @ 05:43 PM - RE: Stereo Expansion
And why is this the wrong place? Seems perfectly logical to put a mixing question in the mix area. :-)
Message 5/13 28-Nov-00 @ 05:51 PM - RE: Stereo Expansion
Oh, well =) Thanks for answering.
I never put reverb and stuff on my bassdrums.
Yeah... I recognise the muddiness but it's not because of my bass stuff.
Should I use exactly the same reverb and delay values for each instrument and things?
Message 6/13 28-Nov-00 @ 06:01 PM - RE: Stereo Expansion
Maybe there's a terminology issue here (maybe it is theory after all ;-). When you say stereo expansion, I am thinking that you are trying to spread the stereo field, so that something that is mostly on the left side of the stereo field goes ALL the way out.
You need to be very juducious in your use of reverb. If you are trying to mix two GREAT sounding synth patches that have these wonderful delays and fantastic reverbs, there's your problem. On their own, the sounds NEED the reverbs and delays to sound full. But in a mix, all those reverbs just add up to complete utter crap.
You're using Cool Edit Pro? Do you have a stereo delay device? If so, you should have the ability to adjust the pan amounts for each channel. So, you can take a centered sound (a snare drum, for example) and have the delay ping-pong from the left side to the right side.
But be VERY careful with your reverbs. If you have alot of stuff going on, and each instrument has a reverb, you get mud.
Message 7/13 28-Nov-00 @ 06:12 PM - RE: Stereo Expansion
The reverbs may be the problem. A guy I know told me that I need much more reverbs in my hihats and my synthlines.
Found that it was quite a big step to take... Stereo expansion and reverbs are very hard to balance
I'll just have to play around more I guess. I'll see what happens.
Thanks for all advices.
Message 8/13 28-Nov-00 @ 09:30 PM - RE: Stereo Expansion
Message 9/13 29-Nov-00 @ 06:23 PM - RE: Stereo Expansion
Message 10/13 30-Nov-00 @ 01:42 PM - RE: Stereo Expansion
techno acts will drive the hihats sounds through something to get that elusive fizzyness.
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