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Subject: punchy kick drums
Original Message 1/59 29-Nov-00 @ 03:16 PM - punchy kick drums
thanks
Message 2/59 29-Nov-00 @ 04:55 PM - RE: punchy kick drums
All this has been said before but hey.
I generally trigger another fairly subtle noise along with a fairly dull kick (currently favoring a sharp rim with the eq cutting off the high frequencies), this kind of gives the initial punch noise and the underlying drum kind of carries the bass past the initial kick. You can also apply fx to the rim (or whatever noise you use) seperatly to the kick. Also, if the drum is sounding really muddy, try cutting the *really* low frequencies with a decent filter, I didn't realise how much subsonic noise I had on my kicks until I took my kit round to a friends house where he had a proper PA system, cutting it made the world of difference and it also lets the bassline shine through.
If you haven't already tried it, you could give Stomper Ultra a go, a free PC drum synth that exports WAVs. I'd be very curious to know how some of the pro's do it, especially the NU-NRG type kick thats common with Nukleuz and the like at the moment. Anybody?
Message 3/59 29-Nov-00 @ 05:34 PM - RE: punchy kick drums
i have stomper and have just started actually using it some. that was what i have been using to double the kick in tune with the bass.
sorry to be ignorant, but what is NU-NRG? i live a sheltered life in the central us.
thanks
Message 4/59 30-Nov-00 @ 01:01 AM - RE: punchy kick drums
if you found a drumsound that sounds like you like it, and sampled it at the right level and all...it should sound good. with no more processing necessary except to taste?
Message 5/59 30-Nov-00 @ 01:48 AM - RE: punchy kick drums
Message 6/59 30-Nov-00 @ 06:45 AM - RE: punchy kick drums
Message 7/59 30-Nov-00 @ 10:29 AM - RE: punchy kick drums
www.bangingtunes.com
(you can search for HardHouse, NU-NRG, Trance, HardTrance, AcidTechno or Psychodelic tracks by artist / name released over the last few years and listen to them as well)
Message 8/59 30-Nov-00 @ 10:48 AM - RE: punchy kick drums
I wouldn't advice to sample everything. It's SO easy to just sample a well-produced record and never learn how to do it by yourself. There are already millions of artists sounding alike and it only seems to get worse. The sampling technology was supposed to break boundaries, not make them. The same with computers, they could make computers do anything but instead they make programs that emulate 20 years old synths or programs that create "music" by choosing which loop to use.
Don't sample, do it on your own. Or if you sample, be creative. Don't sample a house record if you want to make a house record, it is lame. Sample something and turn it into something completely different. That's what the original hip hop culture was about, using old funk records to create something new. Nothing new has happened in the last 8-10 years though... sad, really.
Yes, I am a nazi ;)
Message 9/59 30-Nov-00 @ 03:13 PM - RE: punchy kick drums
NU-NRG....interesting, sounds like a cross between hard house, trance, with a little bit of speed garage and hardcore. can't say i've heard anything like it here in the states, but then again i don't get out much.
peace
Message 10/59 30-Nov-00 @ 04:57 PM - RE: punchy kick drums
!???! - huh?
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