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Original Message 1/39 02-Jan-00 @ 06:54 PM - 3/4 house

eliipsis

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hey all, this is me, and my basic 3/4 house riddim... please tell me what you think, morph, change, embelish it, and use it...i am trying to get past the 4/4 of house...anyway...yea, this is for us 3/4 lovewrs out there...lets get a rythm goin...

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Message 2/39 14-Jan-00 @ 10:53 PM - RE: 3/4 house

ameoba

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you mind dropping that to one of the groove templates? I may be one of the few guys here who's got a midi-phobia.

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Message 3/39 15-Jan-00 @ 01:38 AM - RE: 3/4 house

Ellipsis

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hmmm....i'll try, but the efect is nowhere near the same...use 30 percent quantize....tell me what you think....the three barrs loop...expand/embellish as you like..

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Message 4/39 15-Jan-00 @ 11:50 PM - RE: 3/4 house

goingtocali

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Yo !! I am just a beginner! That was a good beat you dropped. Where can I pick up some hard core techno/house drum midiz? I am using midi orchestrator plus and a yamaha DJX

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Message 5/39 16-Jan-00 @ 06:20 PM - RE: 3/4 house

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No way was that 3/4 - that beat is 6/8, not 3/4.

They both have 6 eighth-notes in a bar which is why the sequencer allows it, but in 3/4 the accent is on the 1st, 3rd and 5th; 6/8 has the accent on the 1st and 4th.

One bar of your beat (slowed down considerably as you read it)- [(BUM, d-da)(DA, da)]

The bits in brackets are the two 'beats' the CAPS are the accented hits. See how it falls into two? If it was 3/4 it would fall into three.

It's good to see someone breaking away from 4/4 tho. Try 5/8 - it's great fun ;-)

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Message 6/39 16-Jan-00 @ 09:20 PM - RE: 3/4 house

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i disagree...in 3/4 the downbeat falls on one, and the upbeats fall on two and three...i geuss i did synchopate it too heavilly..."base" three four is boom chick chick...then i went too (boom) chick(chick) (chick)...then boom chickchick boom chick...the reason why i think it isnt in 6-8 cause in =6/8 you count one- two, two-two, three-two, (three bars of 6/8) where the upbeat is on the second beat of the measure...wheras in 3/4 it is count one -two-three, two-two-three, three-two-three (three bars of 3/4) and the upbeat is on the second and third...if you listen to the the beat, you can almost hear the um pah pah um pah pah...only the drumz is synchopated...as for 5/8...that shit is fukt...i can, however, improvise in 7/4 and 9/4...7/4 is basically two 4/4 bars - the last beat..and 9/4 is 2 4/4 bars + 1 beat...really cool sruff...but often 9/4 ends up being one bar of four four and one bar of 5/4...*sigh*...5/4 is cool...

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Message 7/39 17-Jan-00 @ 01:47 PM - RE: 3/4 house

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I know a 6/8 rhythm when I hear one.

In 6/8 you count ONE,two,three,TWO,two,three for 1 bar. Two distinct beats each split into threes, which is exactly what your rhythm does, syncopation or not. I even opened the MIDI in a score editor. Each bar lasts 1 second, when you play the MIDI and watch the real time display ticking, can you honestly make out three distinct beats per second? I hear two split into three, hence 6/8. This makes the tempo 120bpm too. 180 is not consistent with what you hear as the basis of the beat is not the quarter note, but the dotted quarter.

I don't mean to be argumentative, it's just a fact that the beat is 6/8. Any 'classicaly trained' musician would recognise it as such.

Leftfield have a track on their latest opus entitled 6/8 War. Give it a listen.

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Message 8/39 17-Jan-00 @ 11:08 PM - RE: 3/4 house

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Well what I see is a lack of information, you divided each bar by 4 and there are 4 bars, if this is the case then this would be 4/4 and each bar has 4 quarter note beats. In your chart you need to give the duraton of the beats. anything less is an assumption on our part. As for 6/8 this is a common mistake there are 6 eight notes in each bar and the count is one-and-dah-two-and dah the beat falls on the numbers, 2 beats in a bar. 3/4 has 3 quarter note in each bar and the count is one-two-three, the beat falls on the one. Both of these are waltz. Fell it for yourself.

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Message 9/39 17-Jan-00 @ 11:32 PM - RE: 3/4 house

sage

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hmmm, could the "educated" musicans, or the 'classicaly trained' musician post some midi files of what they are talking about. i would like to try work outside 4/4.. but i dont seem to like anything i play. oh, that midi file is to fast for me, i put it to 135, and i liked it better
peace

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Message 10/39 18-Jan-00 @ 03:28 AM - RE: 3/4 house

Jojo the dog faced boy

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Just like to advertise my ignorance on this subject and my complete and utter admiration for any one who can tell me whats going on....

How in the world can House be any thing BUT 4/4 ? I thought that's what first and fourmost (bad pun excuse me) House was defined by.

What would it sound like ?
where do ya put ya hi hats ?
ahh it's all too zany for me.

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