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Subject: Basslines/drum grooves relationship
Original Message 1/24 08-Jan-00 @ 01:39 AM - Basslines/drum grooves relationship
how attached does a bassline get to a rythmn and what makes it groove and etc.
Actually the question is impossible to phrase so let me put it like this.
what (in your expierence)is the relationship between the bass line and the rythmn and how is it done?
Thanking thou in advance,
the dog faced boy
Message 2/24 08-Jan-00 @ 09:36 AM - RE: Basslines/drum grooves relationship
Message 3/24 08-Jan-00 @ 11:50 AM - RE: Basslines/drum grooves relationship
Message 4/24 08-Jan-00 @ 01:37 PM - RE: Basslines/drum grooves relationship
Message 5/24 09-Jan-00 @ 10:29 AM - RE: Basslines/drum grooves relationship
Message 6/24 09-Jan-00 @ 11:45 AM - RE: Basslines/drum grooves relationship
Message 7/24 22-Jan-00 @ 03:37 PM - RE: Basslines/drum grooves relationship
Here's a samba I got from a drummer/percussionit called Airto. Have fun
Message 8/24 22-Jan-00 @ 08:38 PM - RE: Basslines/drum grooves relationship
I believe the 4 on the floor BD is called Uptown (it's been awhile since I've had to think about name for the grooves) and is probably best exemplified by the live version of Jammin' on Babylon by Bus.
Nice Samba though.
Message 9/24 23-Jan-00 @ 12:31 PM - RE: Basslines/drum grooves relationship
the pounding 4 on the floor kik with the syncopated tambourine used to be called a step or 'stepper' beat which first appeared on tracks like 'MPLA'
it isnt really correct to say that about the kiks, that 'one-drop' style does have it all coming down on the 3 , but reggea has soooo many variations incorporating as it does African, latin & european ideas.... old style lovers or dancehall etc has kiks on 1 & 3 - try a track like 'Stuck on you' Trevor walters for a classic old-style dancehall with the kik on 1 & 3 - or the classic 'sleng-teng' bassline/drum pattern... all are walking 1/3 beats like say 'herb man hustling' used as a basis
if you go for real king david stuff like Ras Micheal you get the classic 1/3 accent nhyabingi style... like on say 'jah would never give the power to a baldhead' by the wailers, (a more well know track with that style) ...... the beat piles in for a heavey downbeat on the One, then releases on the 3 for the 'drop' on 4 before the beat on 1 again...
you also have swing-style walking beat variations like on say 'Oh Jah' by aswad where the kik plays like: b-boom / b-boom / b- b- b- boom... or the classic 'Peanut-Vendor' from the old days.... and on some of the old roots radics stuff you even get triplet swing stuff with a walking kik and drum pattern in a jazzy style... almost like a reggea version of say a Pointer-sisters or nina simone or Miss-T jazz style (heh heh, i actually met Miss-T last year in London we are supposed to go drinking sometime!) -
there is alot of variety in the old backing team styles from JA like sly & robbie, cos they all grew up as kids working the caberet bands in the tourist spots night after night -
i'd say all in all, techno & classic old-trance styles have straight-feel basslines which provide more of a 'Pulse' and drive, while house basslines add extra notes offbeat to work with the basic straight 4 on the floor house kik to make funkier riddims... (generally... not a rule)
lets look at that a bit...
Message 10/24 13-Mar-00 @ 10:01 PM - the classic 1/3 accent nhyabingi style
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