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Subject: Get rid of the lame stuff.......
Original Message 1/19 09-Apr-00 @ 03:34 PM - Dynamics, dynamics,dynamics.....
Message 2/19 09-Apr-00 @ 03:39 PM - RE: Get rid of the lame stuff.......
HTTP://www.mp3.com/unknown_talent
I'd apreciate it bigtime ;)
Message 3/19 10-Apr-00 @ 10:13 AM - RE: Get rid of the lame stuff.......
I for one could use a bit of inspiration and someone elses hi-hat pattern with feel usually does the trick.. However they are hard to come by (good ones), we've all seen the shite techno.mid hardhouse.mid which is basically kick,hihat,clap in the typical bang tsh clap, style.
I've got this well funky one I'm using at the moment from cakewalk, the swing.dna file is great.
Message 4/19 10-Apr-00 @ 11:10 PM - RE: Get rid of the lame stuff.......
If you listen to guys like T-1000, his hard-minimal shite is just POUND CLOSED-HAT (reverbed)
like, nothing else, it's all in the synths.
Any drumcode track is much more (hence the name) drum-oriented and those cats really know how to program drums...
Tech=house like middle-school detroit shit (stacey pullen "Ritual Beating System" relies heavily on bad-ass accenting, manual quantize-tweaking (I mean, this is before groove templates or anything...he did this shit by making a 1.01.48 into a 1.01.46 by ear).
A lot of my rock-friends who only like the Crystal Method listen to my Tresor albums and are like "this is stupid" and utter that perennial complaint of "anybody with a drum machine could do that" ...
NOOO!!!!! If you say so, then do it. I give them a cracked rebirth and they come up with SHIT SHIT SHIT that is only a caricature of what they heard and a REALLY BAD caricature with no art.
Listen to Frankie Bones. On some tracks you think, "god, this guy has no fucking talent" but if you've heard his middle school shit (1994-96ish) you know that he can produce some bomb as shit...and then his stupid shit grows on you as you really listen to the details.
A lot of Techno is as much, if not more about sound creation and timbre and mixing than it is about "oh, hell yeah, I've got this bomb ass 'groovy' drumtrack"
SOme people need to get out of the studio and into the clubs more...remember where you came from and remember what makes you into a trainspotter, bobbing your head up front and jumping with the candy-ravers as you give each other a special eye-contact indicating "yes, I understand this set...this is it, right now...Terry Mullen is the headliner, and he's fun and all, but this guy, with his dj haircut and roman nose, sweatin his ass off, this guy is spinning the innovative shit...THIS is future music and I'm not on any pills and I wish I could capture this moment and show it to people..."
And it's usually forgotten when the 4 am disco house starts and everybody is dancing to the funky samples of the past. The future is forgotten by then...
I LOVE DISCO HOUSE and all, but ... hey...
Message 5/19 11-Apr-00 @ 03:36 AM - Yeah, techno.
Richie Hawtin - Decks, FX, and a 909. Mix.
My top played cd's at the moment, some really nice rhythms going on there.
Yeah some techno IS supposed to be rigid, like if you just pull the last but one 1/16th hihat on a pattern, just one step back to the previous 1/16th then the whole loop get this jerk at the end. Like.
Message 6/19 12-Apr-00 @ 01:03 PM - RE: Get rid of the lame stuff.......
Message 7/19 13-Apr-00 @ 12:15 AM - RE: Get rid of the lame stuff.......
Damballah, I mean techno as Techno. I'm one of those asshole purists who obsess over genre names. It's not so much that I need to classify things as they help people communicate: by all means, the fusion and extrapolation of genres leads to innovation but I still like to know what is "techno" proper or "tek-house" or "disco-dub" etc...
That Hawtin 909 album is ok but I'm absolutely entralled by the first two tracks. Simple, elegant but not booooooooring...
Message 8/19 13-Apr-00 @ 05:09 AM - RE: Get rid of the lame stuff.......
It's about the only stuff you can write whilst stoned I reckon ;)
damballah - I'd chuck an awsome throbbing tribal rythm behind that, with a well bassy kick that has that overdrive shake (not distort). Really short and hard cl-hh on the offbeat. A reverse clap on the first offbeat tuned 1 down from the normal and overdriven forward clap on the 2nd on-beat. suck suck suck...
Then I'd bring in a short phase detuned ophh right on the last 1/16th before each beat hi-pass filterd to fuck. man I can't wait to get the micriwave2 cos that's what would come in next... really middly and power power POWER!!!!
shit shit shit, why am I at work????!!!!!
Message 9/19 13-Apr-00 @ 09:02 AM - RE: Get rid of the lame stuff.......
Message 10/19 13-Apr-00 @ 08:10 PM - RE: Get rid of the lame stuff.......
Odd time anyone?? 3,5,7,11,13,15??
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