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Original Message 1/38 01-Oct-02 @ 09:11 PM - bass

Jack

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Not sure if this is the most appropriate place to post this message on this site, but it was the best I could find.

I have a question about bass lines.

I have been writing experimental electronic music for about 7 years and am mystified still by some of the bass I hear from techno and rap music. I was wondering if anyone could help clear up what is going on.

What I am talking about is easist to describe in rap music.. the bass line that comes in and goes:
Booooooooooooooom ...... ..... Boooooooooom Boooooooom

Totally fills your speakers, and sounds really warm and smoothe.

Where are they getting that sound... ? How is that being done?

I have:

RM1X
MPC2000XL
ASR-10
ELECTRIBE-R

I have tried everything I can think of myself to replicate this bass line sound.. but am unable to do so... every thing pales in comparison.

Am I making any sense? Any one able to offer any info, advice, or opinions?

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Message 2/38 01-Oct-02 @ 10:40 PM - RE: bass

errata

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Analog!!!

the RM1X has some drum hits in the lower octaves that come close... try using one of those and sample it. Then stretch it to 200%... then layer the original sample with the stretched one. Then play with a LP filter on the result, that'll come sorta interestingly close.

But what that sound is is a filtered sine wave with a lot of release on the amp envelope... and a sharp attack.

Analog goes BOOM, rom goes bump! That's really it.

e

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Message 3/38 01-Oct-02 @ 10:46 PM - RE: bass

errata

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ooooo... wait! The korg er-1 should be able to do it with no problem!!!!

Make a bass kick out of a sign wave and give it a phat decay... filter to taste. You might want to sample it and put it through the ASR10's compression.

e

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Message 4/38 01-Oct-02 @ 11:02 PM - RE: bass

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sine waves, filters, bass enhancers etc, is what i'd go for. rack the gain on an analog mixer and it really shakes.. you can get boom that way no probs also look at speaker cab sim plugins & various gainriding or overdrive etc.

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Message 5/38 02-Oct-02 @ 02:23 PM - RE: bass

99devils

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Take a sampler and plug a cable into the input. Grab the other end of the cable and sample the hum. Pitch and filter to taste, and try some distortion.

-Craig

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Message 6/38 02-Oct-02 @ 08:31 PM - RE: bass

influx

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the boom is usually an 808 even nowadays in hiphop

you know what else works great for that? stomper

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Message 7/38 02-Oct-02 @ 08:35 PM - RE: bass

errata

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Yeah... Stomper is great for the low end boom... you can drag the gate out for days... nice in ol' school D&B too

e

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Message 8/38 03-Oct-02 @ 04:12 AM - RE: bass

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It's sub bass. Some producers will add a sub bass track (or double the bass, or kick, track with the dbx sub bass unit) to the mix - roll the volume down till you can barely hear it, then notch it down just a little bit more - presto you sense it in the mix, but it doesn't muddy it up.

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Message 9/38 03-Oct-02 @ 10:49 AM - RE: bass

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maan... Thumper! trust me, it has ridiculous amounts of sub bass. funny though... xoxos uploaded it to DT, but the link works only from his homepage. check it ut, you wont be sorry.

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Message 10/38 03-Oct-02 @ 10:51 AM - RE: bass

milan

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btw, meriphew, i checked out your website and your music last nite. both very nice and the production is 100% solid. respect.

cheers, m.

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