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Original Message 1/138 31-Oct-02 @ 01:42 PM - Who is the enemy
Message 2/138 31-Oct-02 @ 02:00 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
Message 3/138 31-Oct-02 @ 02:17 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
Message 4/138 31-Oct-02 @ 02:59 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
Fuck it! I think I'm gonna move to France.
Regards.
Steve.
Message 5/138 31-Oct-02 @ 04:33 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
Message 6/138 31-Oct-02 @ 05:20 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
I mean after Hitler, no-one started a pogrom against christians did they?.. but the Nazi state was a christian state sanctioned & condoned by the vatican.
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Message 7/138 31-Oct-02 @ 05:41 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
you know better than to throw a statement out there like that...
hitler hated christians and thier bible and was much more a champion of modern athiestic thought than anything else.
so to restate it,
"I mean after Hitler, no-one started a pogrom against athiests did they?.. "
we could go all day back and forth on what christians did or didn't do to stop hitler but in reality your accusations of a)hitler and the church being friendly and b)bush being equal to hitler are not responsible statements. there may be evidence either way but you pass it off as 'common knowledge' when its very dubious.
so lets back off the hitler comparisons ok?
now to your point k, i can agree with you that the iraqi regime is more or less secular but you can't deny they invoke the name of allah to get the crowds riled up anymore than i can deny we demonize sadam as a muslim dictator.
so yah, bush throws the name god around a lot. have you read any speeches from other presidents in our history? nearly all of them invoke the name of god on a frequent basis. you will probably find the same in your own country but i can't imagine you as a patriot so it is a wasted point i suppose :-)
jamey
Message 8/138 31-Oct-02 @ 06:43 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
But just remember, the US are the only country who have ever used major nuclear weapons on another country.
Regards.
Steve.
Message 9/138 31-Oct-02 @ 07:45 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
Message 10/138 31-Oct-02 @ 08:18 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
Every Western and Middle Eastern nation on Earth has leaders that rattle on about "god willing" and God's support. Many Eastern countries, as well... but several of these are somewhat Marxist or have a less definate role for gods in their society than we do in the west! This is what led Marx to call religion the opiate of the masses. it allows governments to control whole swaths of the populace by appealing to their religious faith. It's not really religions fault, it;s the fault of the smart bastards that learned to tap the faithful... to take advantage of the spiritual notion that you needn't understand to belive!!!
"You needn't fully understand the Irag issue to believe what we're doing is necessary!" That's how it is, was and shall be in places where people follow uncomprimising relious entities and black and white religious beliefs! That's how I see it... I'm sure there's someone here to point out my blindness!!!
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