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Subject: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Original Message 1/30 12-Mar-03 @ 10:37 AM - Kick Vs Bass. Again.
The second thing that really seems to annoy me is how all these articles say that if you “have to” use a heavy sounding kick, then you SHOULD ONLY play a bassline that doesn’t fall on any quarter notes (kicks). That’s rubbish. I don’t want to sound “trance” or proggy”.
Thirdly, all these articles across the WWW talk about viewing your mix as a jigsaw and finding “a pocket” for every sound. Now I can understand that but if the kick and bass occupy the same frequencies then what do you do? I have a Mackie desk so I’m stuck with a Lo eq of 80hz. I usually give both kick and bass a little 3db at 80 Hz boost. Now, my question is how do you guys eq the kick and bass in the low and hi mid area? I usually make a small cut at 250 Hz on the bass to try and make room for the kick. How do you guys work your kick and bass combinations?
Message 2/30 12-Mar-03 @ 11:19 AM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
That said, I tend to dig lower kicks (with the meat around 60-80hz) with more mid low basslines (like around 120-160hz), and when I do end up with a low bassline (like something dipping below 60hz) I'll generally use a higher kick (around 120hz or so, depending on the track), mostly cos I'm a lazy git and it makes it easier to mix...=)
G
Message 3/30 12-Mar-03 @ 11:28 AM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Message 4/30 12-Mar-03 @ 11:32 AM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
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Message 5/30 12-Mar-03 @ 11:48 AM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Message 6/30 12-Mar-03 @ 08:58 PM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
cheers
Message 7/30 13-Mar-03 @ 02:08 AM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
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Message 8/30 13-Mar-03 @ 08:46 AM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Mindspawn - pitching the bass up and down to fit into "that pocket" is a fundamental. However, I find that when I pitch the kick up and down by a semitone, it either loses its attack (down in pitch) or just becomes too thin (up in pitch).
Anyone wanna buy me a vintage Neve eq?
Message 9/30 13-Mar-03 @ 10:14 AM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Message 10/30 13-Mar-03 @ 10:27 AM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
How do you work anyways?... My outboard goes thru a hardware mixer, and the 8 subgroups/busses on that mixer route to the PC 8 INPUTS on the hoontech rack... so I can tweak eq's or shelve off shit before recording outboard to audio tracks or before rendering all the onboard & outboard in the final mix... so the mixer is being used to perform PRE-PC S/W-MIXER eq tasks
How is your setup?
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