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Forums - Music techology
Subject: check this out
Original Message 1/22 20-Apr-04 @ 03:29 AM Edit: 20-Apr-04 | 03:35 AM - check this out
A guy in our clan did this. It's his first flash attempt. Pretty awesome I think and break drums to boot. You gotta love the bass fading out at the end. Nice stuff.
http://www.elitezarksnipers.com/ Or catch it up above ^
I'm going to be asking the breakbeat guys here a serious question soon. Kicks are why I'm uninspired to do tracks and I really need some help/answers. There are elements of my tracks that are interesting but the drums and especially kick drums are ridiculous. Anyway that's a heads up cuz I want to do this. If I can't then I can't but I really will need some input.
http://www.elitezarksnipers.com/ Or catch it up above ^
I'm going to be asking the breakbeat guys here a serious question soon. Kicks are why I'm uninspired to do tracks and I really need some help/answers. There are elements of my tracks that are interesting but the drums and especially kick drums are ridiculous. Anyway that's a heads up cuz I want to do this. If I can't then I can't but I really will need some input.
Message 2/22 20-Apr-04 @ 04:51 AM - RE: check this out
not too shabby... seen worse.
For kicks, lowcut below 50 HZ, shelf boost around 60-90 Hz and make a steep cut around 200-300... then add a notched click at around 6-8k. can't go wrong.
For kicks, lowcut below 50 HZ, shelf boost around 60-90 Hz and make a steep cut around 200-300... then add a notched click at around 6-8k. can't go wrong.
Message 3/22 20-Apr-04 @ 12:09 PM - RE: check this out
Thanks. A couple of things I noticed in analyzing somebody's breakbeat kick:
The kick slid into the beat. In other words it started maybe 30 or more ms before the beat and crescendoed up to the beat but it sounded as if it was just landing on the beat. Gave it that subtle slippery effect but I haven't found a kick I can do that to with any success.
At the same volume level as a kick I used in a track the breakbeat kick sounded MUCH louder and way more powerful. I zoomed into the wav file and it had the same amount of headroom as my kick.
It slides in, sounds way more powerful and then it slides back out, meaning it tapers out much the same way it tapered in.
I know that the excellent breakbeat composers here use similar types of kicks. I just don't know how to replicate them from scratch and although I have several samples from this persons track of his kicks I wouldn't use them in a track, tempting as that may be cuz i'd love put a powerful kit together with some of my other ideas.
The kick slid into the beat. In other words it started maybe 30 or more ms before the beat and crescendoed up to the beat but it sounded as if it was just landing on the beat. Gave it that subtle slippery effect but I haven't found a kick I can do that to with any success.
At the same volume level as a kick I used in a track the breakbeat kick sounded MUCH louder and way more powerful. I zoomed into the wav file and it had the same amount of headroom as my kick.
It slides in, sounds way more powerful and then it slides back out, meaning it tapers out much the same way it tapered in.
I know that the excellent breakbeat composers here use similar types of kicks. I just don't know how to replicate them from scratch and although I have several samples from this persons track of his kicks I wouldn't use them in a track, tempting as that may be cuz i'd love put a powerful kit together with some of my other ideas.
Message 4/22 20-Apr-04 @ 03:11 PM - RE: check this out
are you listening to an MP3 for comparison here? Sometimes I've noticed the encoding does interesting things between high frequency content like a hihat and lofreq stuff like kicks. Sometimes it can melt them together so it sounds all slinky like you describe.
Chances are it's just a matter of compression for ya... what compressor do you usually use on kick?
Chances are it's just a matter of compression for ya... what compressor do you usually use on kick?
Message 5/22 20-Apr-04 @ 04:55 PM Edit: 20-Apr-04 | 04:56 PM - RE: check this out
I haven't settled on a compressor. I have several between 3 in reaktor4 and timeworks and another that came bundled with Sonar3 Producer.
It was an mp3 but I know that slinky effect from some lo-fi mp3s but this is not that.
It was an mp3 but I know that slinky effect from some lo-fi mp3s but this is not that.
Message 6/22 20-Apr-04 @ 05:21 PM - RE: check this out
have you tried blockfish from digitalfishphones? ^^^
Message 7/22 20-Apr-04 @ 07:01 PM - RE: check this out
yooooooooooooooooo, Sitar! Whatup?!
Awesome bassline...
Awesome bassline...
Message 8/22 20-Apr-04 @ 10:15 PM - RE: check this out
here's a tip
At the end of the animation, you see [ENTER]
you'll notice that on trying to click, the mouse only slips into 'link' hand mode when the tip crosses a part of the text.... you want it to be clickable when mousing over ANY area of the word [ENTER]
when you create an object which is text, then assign in any of it's INSTANCE in the timeline an 'onmouse event = press' command to go to a URL this links just the text not the spaces in between the letters or around them making it hard to click on easily as the mouse pointer keeps flickering from 'link' hand to pointer normal
to get round that go to edit your [ENTER] object
SHOW GRID
select all the text, and using the shift key drop it down using the down arrow key.... count how many times you shift it down
now... above it, create a rectagle object with the same border-line colour and fill colour as the background - drag the rectangle out to be the same length as the [ENTER] text and the same height -
now deselect that new object, and select the [ENTER] text
hold shift again and using the Up arrow key, tap it back up the same amount as you tapped it down out of the way earlier
note it's position and if the rectangle behind it doesnt line up, tap the [ENTER] lettering back down again out of the way and reposition the rectangle
if the rectangle (which is on the same layer btw) is in front of the text simply use the modify object MOVE BACK or whatever command to send it behind the [ENTER] lettering
ok... when you have the rectangle Behind the text, lined up well with the same height & length as the [ENTER] text - and with the [ENTER] text in it's original position before this editing, then.......
select everything and do command MODIFY - GROUP, so that the background rectangle and the [ENTER] text over it are grouped as one object
now go back to the scene and check the INSTANCE to make sure the onmouse press go to URL command is intact
now when you mouse anywhere over the [ENTER] text, the mouse will remain constantly in 'link' mode with the pointing-hand showing at att times until you move it away from the background rectangle area which is with the [ENTER] text
sorted!
it just occured to me that if that text was done with the TEXTFIELD activated (but with no borders or backgound ticked for the text-area properties) then it might have the same effect but quicker to make happen/edit
damn!.... i've just been getting back into some FLASH meself over the last few weeks actualy.... i always forget alot of stuff cos I use it so infrequently and am also learning... but the textarea thing could work mebbe...
At the end of the animation, you see [ENTER]
you'll notice that on trying to click, the mouse only slips into 'link' hand mode when the tip crosses a part of the text.... you want it to be clickable when mousing over ANY area of the word [ENTER]
when you create an object which is text, then assign in any of it's INSTANCE in the timeline an 'onmouse event = press' command to go to a URL this links just the text not the spaces in between the letters or around them making it hard to click on easily as the mouse pointer keeps flickering from 'link' hand to pointer normal
to get round that go to edit your [ENTER] object
SHOW GRID
select all the text, and using the shift key drop it down using the down arrow key.... count how many times you shift it down
now... above it, create a rectagle object with the same border-line colour and fill colour as the background - drag the rectangle out to be the same length as the [ENTER] text and the same height -
now deselect that new object, and select the [ENTER] text
hold shift again and using the Up arrow key, tap it back up the same amount as you tapped it down out of the way earlier
note it's position and if the rectangle behind it doesnt line up, tap the [ENTER] lettering back down again out of the way and reposition the rectangle
if the rectangle (which is on the same layer btw) is in front of the text simply use the modify object MOVE BACK or whatever command to send it behind the [ENTER] lettering
ok... when you have the rectangle Behind the text, lined up well with the same height & length as the [ENTER] text - and with the [ENTER] text in it's original position before this editing, then.......
select everything and do command MODIFY - GROUP, so that the background rectangle and the [ENTER] text over it are grouped as one object
now go back to the scene and check the INSTANCE to make sure the onmouse press go to URL command is intact
now when you mouse anywhere over the [ENTER] text, the mouse will remain constantly in 'link' mode with the pointing-hand showing at att times until you move it away from the background rectangle area which is with the [ENTER] text
sorted!
it just occured to me that if that text was done with the TEXTFIELD activated (but with no borders or backgound ticked for the text-area properties) then it might have the same effect but quicker to make happen/edit
damn!.... i've just been getting back into some FLASH meself over the last few weeks actualy.... i always forget alot of stuff cos I use it so infrequently and am also learning... but the textarea thing could work mebbe...
Message 9/22 20-Apr-04 @ 10:21 PM - RE: check this out
it's cool btw - but....... you STILL suck!!!
muaahahahahahahhaha !!
LOSER!!!
I'm definately going to have to come and kick your ass sometime soon Sitar... if for no other reason than those bloody appaling jokes!!
btw... Did you hear abut the Nautical Archer?.... his name was Boson Arrows
*cue tumbleweed*
muaahahahahahahhaha !!
LOSER!!!
I'm definately going to have to come and kick your ass sometime soon Sitar... if for no other reason than those bloody appaling jokes!!
btw... Did you hear abut the Nautical Archer?.... his name was Boson Arrows
*cue tumbleweed*
Message 10/22 20-Apr-04 @ 11:56 PM Edit: 21-Apr-04 | 12:12 AM - RE: check this out
Oh jeez. bosen arrows 
I'll pass the advise on k. I didn't make it. It was someone else from our clan.
Oh and bring it K! I was getting monster and holy shit kills all day yesterday, not to mention a couple of godlikes
Would be fun playing with ya m8. You probably fight like Nali! I can't say that you fight like a girl. Akashaaa, EvilLittleGirl, and hXc_chic are 3 badass girls in our clan. There's an interclan team of females, Akashaaa and hXc_chic are in it. Their tag is {TBH} which stands for TheBetterHalf. You gotta love it. I know most of them and they are damn good. {BL}Sponge, {SOD}Chicklet, -ZS-Brutalblonde, {FzS}H( .Y. )TERS, {JSCaC}Play, {NYA}Silk, {HzA}AlisonChains, -ZS-DemonBitch to name a few. Oh man they are fun and they all love Homey 
Hey Alchemist what's up!
Psylicon, I haven't tried blockfish. I'll have a look now. But I'm thinking if I'm not nailing it with what I've got it's still a real lack of understanding. I'd probably get kicks sounding worse coming out of a focusrite platinum than they did going in.
I'll pass the advise on k. I didn't make it. It was someone else from our clan.Oh and bring it K! I was getting monster and holy shit kills all day yesterday, not to mention a couple of godlikes
Would be fun playing with ya m8. You probably fight like Nali! I can't say that you fight like a girl. Akashaaa, EvilLittleGirl, and hXc_chic are 3 badass girls in our clan. There's an interclan team of females, Akashaaa and hXc_chic are in it. Their tag is {TBH} which stands for TheBetterHalf. You gotta love it. I know most of them and they are damn good. {BL}Sponge, {SOD}Chicklet, -ZS-Brutalblonde, {FzS}H( .Y. )TERS, {JSCaC}Play, {NYA}Silk, {HzA}AlisonChains, -ZS-DemonBitch to name a few. Oh man they are fun and they all love Homey Hey Alchemist what's up!
Psylicon, I haven't tried blockfish. I'll have a look now. But I'm thinking if I'm not nailing it with what I've got it's still a real lack of understanding. I'd probably get kicks sounding worse coming out of a focusrite platinum than they did going in.
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