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Original Message 1/12 08-Sep-05 @ 01:17 AM - Something interesting to consider....

Jock Munro

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I read in a book, by Carl Sagan, about exponential growth.

Exponential growth can be explained by an analogy.

Take a chess board, 64 x 64 squares. Say you put a grain of rice on the first square, on the second square you put 2 grains of rice, on the third square 4, on the fourth 8, on the fifth 16, on the sixth 32...and so on. That is exponential growth. By the time you got to the 64th square you would have to have enough rice that would take the entire worlds rice generating countries decades to produce.

Bacteria breeds exponentially. Just like cells divide exponentially.
However there are restrictions that can hamper growth, lack of food, disease and so on...

Common bacteria strands will split and multiply every 15 minutes. If a strand of bacteria did not have any restrictions within a day one strand of bacteria would grow exponentially to have the same mass as mount everest, within the next day the mass of the earth... and so on.

Obviously this does not happen, due to the aforementioned restrictions.

Now look at the human races growth rate. Currently multiplying at an exponential rate.

Now look at the third world. Look at Africa. Look at the charity adverts on TV that tell you that 30,000 kids in Africa die each day due to disease and lack of food.

Its nature exercising control. Taking measures to ensure balance.

Theres no point to this post. Just thought it was interesting.

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Message 2/12 08-Sep-05 @ 03:19 PM - RE: Something interesting to consider....

S1GNALRUNNERS - BLU

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thought about this too, everything with a balance pushing and pulling nagainst each other

off topic slightly:

its when humans get involved and disturb the balance it gets fucked up

watched a few progs on chains like-

farmer uses pesticides on fields, this kills a type of insect to low levels where it cant eat its smaller insect prey, they grow and multiply and almost eliminate there prey, which then leads on and on changing balances all down the line

that dosnt really make sense but im a beliver in all that stuff

dont get me started on the butterfly effect!

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Message 3/12 08-Sep-05 @ 04:55 PM - RE: Something interesting to consider....

milan

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yeah, but who's to say whats a "natural balance". different species have been coming and going since the dawn of time. we are more adept at killing than any other species, given. but any action towards preservation of the current state of things (ok, the preindustrial state of things), is still only a matter of making things good for ourselves, our survival/development. which of course results in population growth... etc etc... whereas the really interesting fact for me is, this ball of rock we're sitting on doesnt care one way or the other. if we kill ourselves off, we'll just be replaced with something else in due time. rats, roaches, doves survive in case of nuclear war, develope further, new life forms emerge etc etc...

so there's nothing to worry about except us becoming extinct!

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Message 4/12 08-Sep-05 @ 06:31 PM - RE: Something interesting to consider....

cheddar

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I like giving the environmental enthusiasts a bad time with a butterfly that needs a certain orchid as a part of it's mating ritual. The orchid only grows in glades provided by coppiced woods (where they farm oak trees but for twigs). Now a conservationalist will campaign for the preservation of the butterflies environment - but that environment is man made, no coppicing=no glade=no orchid=no butterfly

what to do?

Note that the aerobic bacteria could consume the mass of the earth within 1 day if nutrients/oxygen are provided and waste products are removed fast enough.

"its when humans get involved and disturb the balance..." There is no balance, as Bill Gates would say - there are no precedents, there are no bugs

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Message 5/12 08-Sep-05 @ 07:40 PM - RE: Something interesting to consider....

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nobody dies in africa because of lack of food or disease.

they die because they are poor.

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Message 6/12 08-Sep-05 @ 11:28 PM - RE: Something interesting to consider....

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yes - cos c*nts like geldof & bono and other 'jesus complex' retards have brainwashed people into beleiving their 'Feed The World' crap, so everyone just forgets about it thinking it's being sorted

it's simple racism, nothing more elegant than that

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Message 7/12 09-Sep-05 @ 12:14 PM - RE: Something interesting to consider....

cheddar

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I was talking to an Nigerian a while back and he was a clever guy, educated, open minded etc and he said that the western world didn!t want to have the third world self supporting, they wanted to have non functional systems over there so that they couldn!t ever get on a par with the west. He was trying to set up an IT college but the computer makers were not ALLOWED to sell machines into Nigeria - government limitations.

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Message 8/12 09-Sep-05 @ 03:44 PM - RE: Something interesting to consider....

sox

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which is why there's IT charities that collect older machines and ship them to Africa.

And the only reason Microsoftcock still supports Windows98. There was a massive outcry from over there because that's all they've got....

sox

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Message 9/12 09-Sep-05 @ 06:18 PM - RE: Something interesting to consider....

Pongoid

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Erm...no, people die in Africa as well as anywhere else because...we all die. It's what we do. Sooner or later we all go. Even His Holiness Dr. Bob Moog, even His Funkiness Rick James, aven his Evilness Dick Cheney (but not soon enough on that one!!). We all go.

Ape

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Message 10/12 09-Sep-05 @ 08:19 PM - RE: Something interesting to consider....

beds

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still alive are you?

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