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Original Message 1/20             05-Oct-98  @  07:07 PM   -   Roland DINsync

jms891a

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Hi,
I have problems when syncing the
TB303 from the Drumstation.
The drumstation does not keep up.
So the 303 sounds bad.
Does anyone have similar problems
and hopefylly know a solution?



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Message 2/20             05-Oct-98  @  11:20 PM   -   RE: Roland DINsync

303hippo

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I have exactly the same problem, I've tried syncing a 303, 606, and a 202 to my drumstation and it never works. I've posted to this forum about the problem but most everyone is to busy discussing the supernova to pay any attention. My guess is the drumstations din sync is not fully funtional, it'll send the start message but the slave tempo is off. I've used several different clock sources, all with the same result. Cakewalk, Cubase, a K2000, and an msq-100. In all cases It lagged. Probably an OS problem, perhaps phil can update that sometime.



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Message 3/20             15-Oct-98  @  10:33 AM   -   RE: Roland DINsync

jms891a

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Is there any phil out there?
Why doesnt he read our messages?



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Message 4/20             15-Oct-98  @  11:24 AM   -   RE: Roland DINsync

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I have not had an opportunity to try this yet. You may be right...It may be a bug in 1.3 OS. I sold all my DIN SYNC Stuff except my MC202 wich from memory has DIN SYNC...I am going to be in my studio making more sounds hopefully from tomorrow...I will investigate then.

Phill@Novation



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Message 5/20             15-Oct-98  @  02:27 PM   -   RE: Roland DINsync

ktz318s

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I have similar problems. Use
1A adapter ! It works !



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Message 6/20             17-Oct-98  @  01:52 PM   -   RE: Roland DINsync

303hippo

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forgive me, I'm a little ignorant, could you elaborate on that 1a adapter, what is it and where can I get one?



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Message 7/20             21-Oct-98  @  05:43 PM   -   RE: Roland DINsync

ktz318s

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You can buy one from www.jam.se ... $15!
Itīs a little blue box with 2 cables. It works fine !!!



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Message 8/20             23-Oct-98  @  03:58 PM   -   RE: Roland DINsync

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OK I checked it.

It works. You guys have said it does not work but have failed to give any further idea about what it is not doing so I can only speculate about your situation. It's a bit like saying you car does not start and that's it. The cause could be anything from no gas to a buggered motor.

There are several things I need to know.

Is the 303 syncing up at all?
By this I mean

A/is it stopped?
B/is it trying to be in sync but drifting?

If the answer is A then

Are you really really sure you are transmitting MIDI Clock?

Have you varified this by syncing another MIDI device or Drum machine etc?

(You would not belive the number of people who say thay are sending midi clock and in actual fact are sending it to the wrong port or sending MIDI Timecode cos they dont know the difference.)

If the answer is yes I am definatley sending MIDI CLOCK on the CORRECT port and I have varified this and its still stopped.

Are you using a MIDI lead as a Sync lead?

Modern cheap MIDI leads sometimes only use 3 wires even though the Sync/Midi plug has 5 connections. This will cause the sync messages to not go down the MIDI lead and so it wont work properly.
If this is the case try a Known good SYNC lead.

If the unit is still stopped after this.

Have you checked the 303 syncs to any other Sync equipped unit?

The Sync input socket is like a headphones socket. As soon as a lead is plugged in the Start Stop and sync pulses are switched to the incoming signals rather than the internal ones...only problem is this is mechanical and these units are getting old. I have had this problem before with sync sockets.

This can be varified by syncing the unit to a known good sync source such as a 606 or 808.

Does the tempo knob on the 303 alter the speed?

If the tempo is altered in this way then the sync socket is failing to switch the sync signals over when the sync lead is inserted.

Have the 303 checked.

Thats all folks...

It does work for me.

Phill@Novation



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Message 9/20             24-Oct-98  @  02:32 PM   -   RE: Roland DINsync

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I thought I was pretty specific but ok, I'll go into extreme detail. I have tried syncing up a 202, a 303 and a 606 through the drumstations sync and they all behave exactly the same. They start on time and slowly start to drift. I've sent the midi start message from 2 different k2000's an msq-100(yes I know it has it's own sync), and two different computers, running cake walk 5.0, 6.0, and 7.0. in all cases, with all instruments, all of my din gear, starts on time and by the 4th measure or so it has begun to drift off tempo.
using the msq-100 sync, all of the gear runs perfectly.



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Message 10/20             25-Oct-98  @  02:32 PM   -   RE: Roland DINsync

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What version of OS is in the Drumstation. Hold down the Audition and power up. It will display a 2 digit number.

Please advise this number

Phill@Novation



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