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Original Message 1/18 07-Aug-97 @ 10:39 PM - RB 338 uses SAMPLES !!!!!!

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It�s no fake !

The TR808 from Rebirth RB 338 uses
AIF (Macintosh) Audio Files (Samples).

No Physical Modeling, just Samples !!!!

That�s true and no Fake, you can easyly
exchange the Samples with your own (TR909s for
example).

All you need is RIPPER5 and HEXEDIT !!!!!

Holger

Hey Kilo,

soon i send a modificated RB338 Demoversion with
909 Samples to you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Heads are liers !!!!!!!!

They have done such a good Job and normally have
no need to tell the untruth about the Samples...
It�s no shame to use Samples (even when you
have so nice Microsynths besides the SamplePlayer)

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Message 2/18 08-Aug-97 @ 02:35 AM - RE: RB 338 uses SAMPLES !!!!!!

zelquan72

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I thought this. I'm sure the controls on the 808 (snappy, etc.) are just low pass filters, tuning and decay, nothing you could'nt do on a nomal sampler.

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Message 3/18 08-Aug-97 @ 03:27 AM - RE: RB 338 uses SAMPLES !!!!!!

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Yup... Holger is right...

Yesterday i ripped all the 808 samples (all in AIFF format)
out of Rebirth... i called holger and asked told him about
this.. he said that the propellerheads claim they have not
used any samples in there rb338.. which is not true!

I used Ripper5 and a hexeditor to replace the samples inside
the Rebirth.exe and it worked!
Now i have a brand new bassdrum sound =)

the following text is from "www.propellerheads.se"

--- Why an 808, why not the 909?
--- There are many answers to that question. We are of course perfectly aware that the 909 is the obvious choice for
--- a virtual techno studio. We picked the 808 because it's a 100% analog machine which is totally in line with the
--- whole idea of ReBirth, whileas the 909 contains samples. Also, most people have access to tons of drum sounds
--- anyway, through external samplers and synthesizers that provide a lot more flexibility in terms of outputs etc.
--- than your sound card does. The 303 emulation is the vital part of ReBirth, while the drum machine is more of an
--- add-on.

--- Why an 808 model, can't I just as well use the samples in my synth?
--- No, not really. While an ordinary sample of an 808 snare might sound as good as one snare hit from our 808,
--- there's a big difference when playing back a complete pattern. The real thing is analog and there are small
--- variations in sound from, beat to beat, which we recreate. Furthermore, our product has all the controls, including
--- the "Snappy", "Decay" and "Tone" controls, which means it can be used to create all the original sounds.

You can get Ripper5 at "http://www1.tu-chemnitz.de/~til/zips/rippr500.zip"

Happy patching! ;)

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Message 4/18 08-Aug-97 @ 05:24 AM - RE: RB 338 uses SAMPLES !!!!!!

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Amazing! Found the .aif files with Ripper5. I have HEXEDIT so how do I put new files like a 909 into ReBirth?

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Message 5/18 08-Aug-97 @ 09:08 AM - RE: RB 338 uses SAMPLES !!!!!!

kilo

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AMAZING.....SOMEBODY SUE THEM !!!.........heh heh...... only joking.....

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Message 6/18 08-Aug-97 @ 12:36 PM - RE: RB 338 uses SAMPLES !!!!!!

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before i fuck up my file , what is ripper5?

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Message 7/18 08-Aug-97 @ 04:10 PM - RE: RB 338 uses SAMPLES !!!!!!

nbenford

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963: it gets imbedded FiLeZ out of another file like an .exe file or the sound out of a .mov file. Use it on rebirth.exe and you end up with about 20(?) .aif files of 808 samples!!! I don't think it hurts the file, my demo still works.

p.s. how do I put sounds back in w/ hexedit?

Noel

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Message 8/18 08-Aug-97 @ 04:44 PM - RE: RB 338 uses SAMPLES !!!!!!

ateo8

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Are the waveforms in the 303s samples also? If they are, maybe you could fuck with them also and get some wicked sounds using the filters ???

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Message 9/18 08-Aug-97 @ 04:51 PM - RE: RB 338 uses SAMPLES !!!!!!

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if you can trash the 808 samples so easily why isn't possible to trash no-save function also?

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Message 10/18 08-Aug-97 @ 04:59 PM - RE: RB 338 uses SAMPLES !!!!!!

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Next question - What is HEXEDIT and where do you get it?

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