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Original Message 1/38 19-Mar-98 @ 08:34 PM - ESI32 or S2000?

Becky

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I have a CS1x and am looking to get a sampler,
these 2 seem the best contenders, and are reasonably cheap...
Any thoughts?

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Message 2/38 20-Mar-98 @ 03:49 AM - RE: ESI32 or S2000?

self_osc

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if you like filters and sound manipulation buy the ESI
It�s have a lot of DSP power and really beefy filters,
plus you can add the expansion board and get 16
new types, the EIV ones!!!!!!
4 outs is good enough for a start, but the same
exp. board (the CALAMARI) gives you a 4 more and
S/PDIF I/O.
Now the ESI comes standard with SCSI interfase, so
for a little more you can purchase a removable storage
media.
Also, a dual FX processor is now aviable for this machine,
so theres nothing better in the S2000 over the ESI32

Dan

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Message 3/38 20-Mar-98 @ 04:59 PM - RE: ESI32 or S2000?

Becky

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What about internal resampling though. I know the ESI32 can't do it.

Not sure about the Akai.

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Message 4/38 20-Mar-98 @ 08:23 PM - RE: ESI32 or S2000?

self_osc

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Nop!, the S2000 can�t do internal resampling.
For this thask you shoud look at the ASR (Ensoniq) family
or the top E-mu range (but this are expensive)
A second hand ASR10 gives you internal resampling thru the
FX!!!!, also you can sequence a pattern, play it
and resample the sound while the seq is running, or sample
an external source with FX. The only real down side of
the ASR10 are the NON RESONANT filters (if you can
live with a max of 16 Mbytes and only 8 instruments in
the internal sequencer)
The very new ASRX drum machine style sampler is the
son of the ASR thechnology, and have pros and cons
over the 10.
Pros: resonant filters, new awesome FX, cool pads, up to
34 Mbytes (standard is 2), 16 instruments sequencer,
ROM sounds and ROM expansion slot for MR compatible
boards (dance board kicks!)
Cons: reduced sample editing compared with the old 10,
reduced sequencer edition, only 1 sample rate (44.1 KHz)
and nothing more
I love this machine because is a great compositional
tool and a versatile live instrument, and I hope I can
purchase one in 1 or 2 months
But, if I have to choose one of the samplers that you
are asking about, I�ll get the E-Mu without any doubt

And please sorry for my crappy english

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Message 5/38 20-Mar-98 @ 08:57 PM - RE: ESI32 or S2000?

Prophecy�s SubOscillator is a sample wave?

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I think thats the sub-osc of my Prophecy is a sample
wave
I guess it because:
1.Take an initialazed patch, go to the mixer section and
turn off Osc1, then let the Sub go to out 1 at max volume.
Go to the Filter section and select the "paralell"
configuration and turn filter 1 tu "THRU" mode. Then
go to the sub and select waveform=SAW, and tracking the
osc1 2 OCTAVES ABOVE
in this situation, if you play the kbd at a medium to high
note. What do you hear? under the SAW wave you can
notice a very loud alias wave..........mmmmmmmm
2.You don�t have PWM in this oscillator (impossible if it a
sample single cycle wave)

Try this and say me if I am wrong, please!

DAN

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Message 6/38 20-Mar-98 @ 09:33 PM - RE: ESI32 or S2000?

Becky

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Thanks for the good info... I'll probably get a ESI32 once I can afford it.
I was keen on the Akai because it seems to be widely used in jungle, which
is what I'm into.
The ASR-x and ASR10 are way more expensive right?

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Message 7/38 23-Mar-98 @ 11:50 AM - RE: ESI32 or S2000?

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yeah, but those machines are H-O-T! worth any penny!

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Message 8/38 23-Mar-98 @ 02:08 PM - RE: ESI32 or S2000?

Houseman

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The ASR-X lists for $1600 US. Add SCSI for about $200, add the Urban Dance card for about $375-$400 (worth every penny), and add the Output X-Pander (8 extra outs) for about $200.

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Message 9/38 29-Mar-98 @ 08:04 PM - RE: ESI32 or S2000?

Becky

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I just checked out a music store... and it seems like the ESI32 is going out
of production. They had one left in the back (none on display) for $699 + tax;
which seems like a pretty good deal, but I don't have the cash right now...

The store also had a somewhat crummy looking S2000 (also $699), but it also looked
like one of the last ones. They were pushing hard the ESI4000, A3000, and
ASR-X, and the like... in the more expensive price range.

Are the manufacturers giving up on those midrange machines? It seems like you
have to either buy a crappy 'MC' type 'DJ device' like a Yamaha SU10, or a
Roland DR Sampler; or get an all in 1 super production machine...

Kilo, or anyone, any insights to what's happening in the market?

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Message 10/38 30-Mar-98 @ 12:06 AM - RE: ESI32 or S2000?

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If you are just getting to sampling buy the esi 32!!!!
the manual is excellent and you'll be familiar with the dope operating system right away.The calamari board that was talked about earlier turns this mid range sampler into a contender!!!The board gives you 2 seperate effects
(with their own output)E4 filter set(stoked!)spdif digital outs'and 2 more analog sub outs.So i say grab an esi32 before they are gone,or buy one used,but definitly get the turbo expansion board also called calamari!!

Peace
Jason

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