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Original Message                 Date: 14-Oct-03  @  04:48 PM   -   Using Logic with Reason

Benn Two

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Hello,

I am running Logic Plat 5.5 on a decent PC. I want to use the just the sounds in Reason (especially the drums) but sequence and FX through Logic. I know I need Rewire but my question is:- is using Rewire with Reason through Logic stable and bug free?/ Can I do it?

Thank you,

Benn Two




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Message 11/13             19-Oct-03  @  02:46 AM   -   RE: Using Logic with Reason

Brett Electric

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Re: Using Hubi's Looback device or Midi Yoke to overcome the 'no midi from Logic 5.5 to Reason via Rewire 2 under windows' problem.

Firstly Beds, I'm pretty (99%) sure that Hubi's Loopback doesn't work under XP (unless they've just released a new version in the last week or so). Secondly, you can use Midi Yoke under XP, but when you try to use it to trigger Reason from Logic you get about 50 ms latency (very bad) - happens to me, and a lot of other people I've spoken to (any ideas on ways to overcome this would be appreciated of course!).

So from my experience and research you can either:

1. Use Reason's sequencers ie. Matrix etc. (not very handy for a Logic programmer) and just route the audio with Rewire 2.
3. Use Cubase or Sonar which both support midi control to Reason through Rewire 2(again not very handy for a Logic programmer)
2. Upgrade to Macintosh and Logic 6, which supports midi control to Reason through Rewire 2 (not very handy for a PC user).

Those are the options as I see them. I weould be very glad if someone could point out a better one   (please?)

Cheers, Brett.



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Message 12/13             19-Oct-03  @  10:18 AM   -   RE: Using Logic with Reason

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if the latency is stable then you can use track delay on your midi. (negative values)



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Message 13/13             19-Oct-03  @  02:11 PM   -   RE: Using Logic with Reason

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True, About -170 seems to get it back in sync for me. But it's a bit of a bummer trying to record a midi part (on a track routed to Reason) in real time with that sort of latency.

psylichon wrote: 'The MIDI loopback is a nice idea, beds, but would be rather tedious as Reason only accepts one MIDI port and channel as a source for sequencing. Unless you take your parts as audio one at a time, this is not the way to work'

I've found that I can route 4 separate virtual midi cables (Midi yoke) to Reason from Logic 5.5. Each cable has 16 channels, so I can trigger note sequences in 64 Reason synths (theoretically, I've only bothered to do 8. Ie. 2 synths on each cable)

Bouncing down to .wav is still a one-at-a-time affair, but I so is bouncing to .wav from ES1 or EVP88 isn't it? So is recording from a hardware synth (unless you have a multi input Sound card).

Good luck if anyone can be bothered - the sequencer in Reason's not that bad is it?

Brett



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