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Original Message                 Date: 06-Nov-98  @  10:31 AM   -   777...New era in acid?

Ryan

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I heard several bassheadz talkin' bout 777 in the last few months. I've visited the futuretro home page and listened to some audio files. It has the same sound (if not better) than the real thing.

I already own a 303. And I really would like another 303 to blow my (and your) mind. Should I consider this 777 machine or...?

I live in The Netherlands and I read on the 777 page that they don't deliver outside the US and Canada yet or do they?

Any comments on that?




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Message 11/16             06-Dec-98  @  05:29 AM   -   RE: 777...New era in acid?

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HAH!!! I just got finished clearcoating mine... I will tell you to that it is a real bitch to do properly..
talk with someone who does autobody work, cuz it is hell!
Heat up yer oven to 450degrees for about 20 minutes (this burns all the dust in the air in the oven into ash)
Then, set it to about 250 degrees, let it cool down to 250, then wash yer front panel GENTLY and put yer front panel in the oven to set the lettering so that its totally free of moisture before you spray yer first few layers of clearcoat.
use a brick or something to make the lettered part of the panel lay perfectly flat when you spray...Also use something in the oven so when it is setting in the oven it lies perfectly flat, otherwise you will have runs in the finish.
Use masking tape to mask off the front part of the panel.. do NOT clearcoat the front side of the panel, just clearcoat the part that has the lettering, OTHERWISE the clearcoat will TOTALLY RUN down the front of the panel and you will be SORRY!! like i was...  
Put down a few light coats with a minute or two between each, then put it in the oven to set the finish. wet sand lightly (the shower worked good) with 400 grit sandpaper (this gets all the little pieces o lint and hair out of the finish).
After wet sanding, put it in the oven to dry, then do another coat, fairly heavy, but EVENLY sprayed..
Put it in the oven one last time for about an hour, and HOPE you dont have any hair in the finish (or at least none big enough to really notice)
BTW, on the last coat, turn the oven off and let the panel cool in the oven.. This will minimize the chance of the finish being sticky enough to pick up lint when you take it out of the oven
Otherwise, if there is a ton of hair or lint in the final finish after it dries, you have to wet sand it and try it again.
Then if all works well, you will have to use a dremel tool (the cool way) or a very fine file to file the inside of all the holes, cuz the clearcoat will make the holes too small and the buttons will stick.

Try just cooking your panel @250 degrees first, and then, if the lettering is still sketchy, try the clearcoat. yOU dont want to clearcoat if you dont have to.. A guy who works autobody told me that even to guys with showcars, he does NOT recommend clearcoating unless you have a lot of patience and time, cuz if you screw it up too bad, its a lot of work to fix.

BTW, I came up with two new toggles for the 777,
I have the accent inversion of course, AND, I have a new one which I call Glide Warp..Basically, it makes the unglided notes glide, but the glided notes still glide, but they glide at the BEGINNING of the note! These two extra toggles makes one able to get a LOT of variation out of just 1 pattern!
Basically, you get 4 variations of the same pattern! You get normal, glide warped, Accent inversion,AND GW with Accent inversion, Depending on how the knobs are set, you can get some minor to WILD variations! With glide warped, your patterns can sound unlike ANY you have ever heard!
I am also working on a mod that will use the accent to turn the volume of osc2 on and off..
Basically, osc2 will be off, BUT, when you select the accent switching mode on and you have an accented note, osc2 goes on, but ONLY on accented notes..Of course, couple this with the accent inversion, and you can do some strange stuff in real time!
Imagine having a 303 sound, and then, you slowly turn up the volume knob on osc2, and it sounds like a backing melody is coming in with its own timing! Of course, it would NOT have to be the same notes either if you have an external midi to CV controller controlling the notes on osc2!
You could literally have it sounding like two 303s are playing seperate melodies with ONE machine!
More on this later..
Heh, now that Im self-employed, the REAL fun begins! ;)
Better that the 303, because the 777 is FAR EASIER MODDED!
rob



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Message 12/16             06-Dec-98  @  05:33 PM   -   RE: 777...New era in acid?

x2c4nrg

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Your the man Rob! I like your ideas for the 777, but how can you hook me up?

ReZo-99



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Message 13/16             06-Dec-98  @  07:39 PM   -   RE: 777...New era in acid? NO DOUBT!!!

x2c4nrg

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Damn! I just ran my 777 through my ASR-10, set the effect to dual delays and turned up the overdrive a 1/4 of the way and DAMN! The 777 screams! It adds more distortion and makes it scream like a madman. It also gives it that crunchy sound when you turn down the cutoff and the env amount. This is definitly the sound I've been looking for.
Too bad I dont know how to put up a demo on Real Audio or even a mp3 demo  This sound would definitly convince people that the 777 can blow most other synths away! If it dont convince you to buy a 777, you must not like acid. If someone can tell me how to use a mp3 encoder Ill try to make a demo. Im not exactly a computer expert.

ReZo-99



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Message 14/16             07-Dec-98  @  12:15 AM   -   RE: 777...New era in acid?

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hey, i *think* you can convert a .wav file to realaudio..
As for the mp3, im not too sure..

Oh, BTW, when I finish all these mods, Ill be able to do them for ya! I got the time nowadays, since Im working for myself now.. Heh, I make more on unemployment than most ppl make working! hah!
the mods I will have will be
accent inversion
glide warp
gate inversion
And, I will try VERY hard to get the accent to osc2 gate going, but no promises, since I dont want to overstress the powersupply in the 777 and the osc2 accent gate will mean I need to add 1 more IC.
Ill keep ya posted!
rob



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Message 15/16             22-Dec-98  @  07:43 PM   -   RE: 777...New era in acid?

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Hey all, searching for info on the 777. Where's the page?

Please lemme know via email - sep@8up.com

Thanks...

SeP



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Message 16/16             23-Dec-98  @  04:24 PM   -   RE: 777...New era in acid?

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Well I got my 777.....very nice.So fuckin easy to program and the overdrive knob....talk about blow your speaker into next week. Well I just wanted to say the 777 is a great piece of gear. Jered told me that him and his dad are now working on a drum machine. Look out FR908



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