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Original Message Date: 22-Jan-99 @ 04:10 AM - SUPERNOVA vs. MKS-80

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I was comparing the Supernova online demo to my MKS80 (I know not fair)
And to my ears, despite it's 3 oscillators, Nova sound is thin compared to the real thing. Any one out there done back to back?
No need to list the advantages of having a new synth.

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Message 11/16 27-Jan-99 @ 07:55 AM - RE: SUPERNOVA vs. MKS-80

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I would never exchange the possibilities of saving sounds and recording/controlling all the parameters with MIDI to a system that is analog just for analog's sake! There are lots of people who say that virtual analogs sound weak and there are lots of people who say they sound exactly the same... it's all just a question of personal taste, isn't it?

I would *never* give my SN away to get an analog device that maybe even has to be tuned every three months!

In my opinion the market success of the SN says enough. Now is the time for DSP with all its benefits *and* disadvantages (so let's say characteristics). Maybe anyhow it's better to treat every virtual analog synth as a new instrument. Maybe in your opinion they're not a real substitute for analogs. So don't buy it! But if you want a modern synth with the possibilities of an old vintage plus the ease of use of an up-to-date-synth it's perfect. And with every release of the OS it's getting better (hopefully :-] )

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Message 12/16 27-Jan-99 @ 09:23 PM - RE: SUPERNOVA vs. MKS-80

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Obviously you've never heard or played a Matrix-12

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Message 13/16 29-Jan-99 @ 12:43 AM - RE: SUPERNOVA vs. MKS-80

kilo

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one point no-ones thought about here, we have to reckon with.... you're listening to the nova off of a demo CD right?.... and your MKS live ?.... now... obviously a cd cant capture all the harmonics and overtones of the actual unit plugged thru the mixer ... so it may be that !..... in fact it's bound to be a factor regardless of what it's doing... was any compression applied during cd mastering?... (and it will be transparent if done right)....or any eq-ing ??... etc... there could be many factors..... it's like the difference between looking at a photo of a painting and the actual painting so to speak...

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Message 14/16 29-Jan-99 @ 03:29 AM - RE: SUPERNOVA vs. MKS-80

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All I'm saying is that, as consumers we should be able to purchase what ever we want
And that includes new analog synths. If they want to charge twice as much for a new analog
Because the excuse is that it cost too much to make, that's a decision that we have to make whether
We're going to spend the money or not. I'm just tired of having companies dictate what kind of synths
I can buy. Let's face it, all we've had since the 80's as far as synths go are, three dozen digital with different name for type of filtering but same lousy sounds and two dozen samplers and now those virtual synths. I don't know about most users but to me having 64 or more notes or 16 track sequencers or all the
Bells and whistles are no substitute for a good sound that blends in perfect in the mix.
If there is any doubts about what sounds the best analog or virtual, Just look at the facts. The bass sounds are always compared to Moog the strings to Jupiter's or something else and the brass to Ob's. That tells us even after all these years and few hundred useless sounding synths the analog is the standard by which all synths will be measured and compared to. And that's not matter of personal taste but fact.

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Message 15/16 01-Feb-99 @ 07:42 PM - RE: SUPERNOVA vs. MKS-80

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Well, it looks like I've been proved right about the Analog.
New kid is in town and it's called SE Omega-8. That's 8 voices of pure Analog.

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Message 16/16 03-Feb-99 @ 04:56 PM - RE: SUPERNOVA vs. MKS-80

Phill

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Hey the supernova's so crap I managed to get sounds from my MATRIX 12 sounding better than they do on the Matrix.

These will be released on Version 3 OS.

Phill@Novation

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