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Subject: an oldie (really)
Original Message Date: 27-Nov-03 @ 04:01 PM - an oldie (really)
my first band...men of clay (i didn't name it)....used to play alongside groups like minor threat, dead kennedys, middle class, husker du, christian death.....mojo nixon (ha!)....etc.
in other words we were a punk band.
and yet our music was a little different because the main songwriter was a keyboardist who could barely play (his moog prodigy and casio mt-40
driven through a flange and distortion pedal) but wrote some pretty interesting stuff.
sometimes it wasn't even punk but no one was sure. no one cared but they listened. even jello biafra said we were his favorite sd band at the time.
one song i used to actually sing onstage was called you stand before me~
it became rather an anthem about miscommunication.
this, i wrote about a best friend who seemed to enjoy arguing with me... NIGHTLY.....about politics.
he used to love to see me get angry and this was becoming unsettling to me and i announced at one point we needed to either chill or let's just call it the day.
after all> i enjoy an intellectual fist-fight as much as the next moron.....but not on a daily basis.
and not with the same....person.
since we were old surfing buddies it hurt when he came over the NEXT night and decided he cared-less what i thought...or my wife at that time....and wanted to go on about how great america was going to be with reagan in office.
well....i threw him out finally....and wrote this song the next day.
it has always stayed with me....as it's one of the few songs i can actually play and almost sing at the same time.
the theme is rather universal. it's about people not understanding each other.
i saw him out in the water a few times after that. we never really hung out after those years. i was being branded a communist.....and well....whatever. i will always stand for the underdog.
of course this resulted in attracting violence and trouble as the band grew in visibilty.
i have stories which i may share later. i don't know.
the original version used to have a chord change which i excluded for sake of electro-grooviness but i'm thinking of doing a more piano-ish version truer to the spirit of what it sounded like 2 decades ago.....for sake of documentation...and because it's a pretty song.
okay....so that's that.
hope you can enjoy some aspect of my 2003 mixes.
in other words we were a punk band.
and yet our music was a little different because the main songwriter was a keyboardist who could barely play (his moog prodigy and casio mt-40
driven through a flange and distortion pedal) but wrote some pretty interesting stuff.
sometimes it wasn't even punk but no one was sure. no one cared but they listened. even jello biafra said we were his favorite sd band at the time.
one song i used to actually sing onstage was called you stand before me~
it became rather an anthem about miscommunication.
this, i wrote about a best friend who seemed to enjoy arguing with me... NIGHTLY.....about politics.
he used to love to see me get angry and this was becoming unsettling to me and i announced at one point we needed to either chill or let's just call it the day.
after all> i enjoy an intellectual fist-fight as much as the next moron.....but not on a daily basis.
and not with the same....person.
since we were old surfing buddies it hurt when he came over the NEXT night and decided he cared-less what i thought...or my wife at that time....and wanted to go on about how great america was going to be with reagan in office.
well....i threw him out finally....and wrote this song the next day.
it has always stayed with me....as it's one of the few songs i can actually play and almost sing at the same time.
the theme is rather universal. it's about people not understanding each other.
i saw him out in the water a few times after that. we never really hung out after those years. i was being branded a communist.....and well....whatever. i will always stand for the underdog.
of course this resulted in attracting violence and trouble as the band grew in visibilty.
i have stories which i may share later. i don't know.
the original version used to have a chord change which i excluded for sake of electro-grooviness but i'm thinking of doing a more piano-ish version truer to the spirit of what it sounded like 2 decades ago.....for sake of documentation...and because it's a pretty song.
okay....so that's that.
hope you can enjoy some aspect of my 2003 mixes.
Message 11/17 28-Nov-03 @ 01:57 AM - RE: an oldie (really)
Hahaaaaaa.... Clay gets top billing. It's official the man called was a rock star. Black on white. Err white on black.
Track's not bad either.
Track's not bad either.
Message 12/17 28-Nov-03 @ 03:36 AM - RE: an oldie (really)
thanks garuna~ glad you enjoyed the piece!
milan throwing that out was a bit like a birthday surprise for me.
where'd ya find such a relic anyway?
milan throwing that out was a bit like a birthday surprise for me.
where'd ya find such a relic anyway?
Message 13/17 28-Nov-03 @ 09:25 AM - RE: an oldie (really)
doh... on the internet!
btw... someone is (or was) looking for ya... type "men of clay"+punk into google and check da links.
btw... someone is (or was) looking for ya... type "men of clay"+punk into google and check da links.
Message 14/17 28-Nov-03 @ 09:56 AM - RE: an oldie (really)
hehe.. cool da flyer. Track is nice too especially for.. what? 1981? I was just out of my diapers then!
Message 15/17 28-Nov-03 @ 03:04 PM - RE: an oldie (really)
thanks maarten for the listen and props!>
and milan...i'll definitely look that up. they're not men w/guns are they?
or bats?
it was usually boots and bats.
anyway...thanks again.
and milan...i'll definitely look that up. they're not men w/guns are they?
or bats?
it was usually boots and bats.
anyway...thanks again.
Message 17/17 28-Nov-03 @ 05:17 PM - RE: an oldie (really)
couldn't find the flyer but i got pointed to a photo of fear's lee ving with my ex-moc mate lisa love. in that album was a photo of my old friend lloyd conflict. this guy risked his own personal safety at one time to help me right a wrong done to me and a whole group of people who were in attendance at amen of clay gig......which indeed involved nazis with bats....yes...ma'am that is a guy on the sidewalk with his head busted open....we are keeping america beautiful. almost exact words.
anyway....lloyd banded a group of guys together and helped settle a major score....
which could've got us major trouble had the 3 sheriff's cars arrived one minute later. we basically waved to them as we were leaving. geez.
scary.
this is all part of a history which left me unable to further perform comfortably..... knowing my friends and fans couldn't attend without being slaughtered by goons.
everything just got that ugly.
lloyd was tossed off a tuna-boat a few years later while working.
i'll never know whether this was a result of some vendetta against him or whether this was an entirely unrelated incident.
but i still owe him for the time he showed up to help me when things got outta hand. and they were definitely outta hand.
okay. so i'm still around. i'm gonna try to keep it that way.
but not sitting without ever making a peep.
just MORE quietly.
anyway....lloyd banded a group of guys together and helped settle a major score....
which could've got us major trouble had the 3 sheriff's cars arrived one minute later. we basically waved to them as we were leaving. geez.
scary.
this is all part of a history which left me unable to further perform comfortably..... knowing my friends and fans couldn't attend without being slaughtered by goons.
everything just got that ugly.
lloyd was tossed off a tuna-boat a few years later while working.
i'll never know whether this was a result of some vendetta against him or whether this was an entirely unrelated incident.
but i still owe him for the time he showed up to help me when things got outta hand. and they were definitely outta hand.
okay. so i'm still around. i'm gonna try to keep it that way.
but not sitting without ever making a peep.
just MORE quietly.
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