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Subject: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
Original Message Date: 23-Feb-01 @ 07:17 PM - EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
this is geared towards songs with 2 basslines that are working together...
I've heard before that the part of the BD that hits you in the chest is between 100 and 200Hz. Even-handed guy that I am, I usually put a medium-size notch on the sub-bassline at 150Hz, with a cut of 3-5dB, to make room for the bass drum
Also, since I want the sub to come through, I usually roll-off any sub freq's from the bass drum starting about 100Hz using a HPF.
I remain unsatisfied with this approach. It seems too simple, and most times it doesn't get the definition I would like. There has to be something more (better) I can do to increase the definition on the bottom end...
I am hesitant to boost the mids on anything because I'm trying to use another bassline sound above the kick, with little or no sub in it.... d&b heads know what I mean -- that growling HPF'd bassline that keeps whacking your ear while the lower line moves the air....
any comments are welcome.....
Message 11/26 02-Mar-01 @ 07:48 AM - RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
Usually, the really low basses get cut in the mastering, though. A hi-pass filter on 40-60 hz with a low Q cuts away most of the unnecessary low-frequency information without introducing any artifacts.
Message 12/26 03-Mar-01 @ 02:29 AM - RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
I dont know of any systems that can reproduce 14hz anyway..can they?
Id think that anything below 30 is just eating up headroom. am I wrong?
Message 13/26 03-Mar-01 @ 11:32 AM - RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
Message 14/26 03-Mar-01 @ 07:22 PM - RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
and is there any point in trying to get that much bass in your sounds unless youre going to be played on the most massive and powerful systems?
all this talk about 14hz...just seems so funny to me
30hz would make you puke at huge levels anyway, no?
Message 15/26 04-Mar-01 @ 02:00 AM - RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
or is that a complete lie
Message 16/26 04-Mar-01 @ 04:27 AM - RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
brown noise is a reality
Message 17/26 04-Mar-01 @ 06:58 AM - RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
for reference, low E on a bass guitar is around 42 hz. most people hear the note in the overtones, though.
Message 18/26 04-Mar-01 @ 05:02 PM - RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
doesnt seem that low. hmmm. damballah with the sound knowledge
guess that happens when you get old
Message 19/26 04-Mar-01 @ 05:21 PM - RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
one of the things that happens when you deal with really low tones, is you need to put in some of those upper-harmonics so that people with merely mortal speakers can hear what's going on. I like running subby stuff out into a speaker (and I've got a few crap ones, crap ones are good for this) and miking it. that gives you some speaker compression and new harmonics. roll the low end off the speaker channel, bring it up so you can hear the bassline, then bring in the sub stuff just enough so there's some feel going on.
Message 20/26 04-Mar-01 @ 07:31 PM - RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines
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