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Original Message Date: 09-Aug-02 @ 04:15 PM Edit: 09-Aug-02 | 04:16 PM - Need some serious advice...

Steve Roughley

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I posted a message earlier asking about a synth for strings and pads. After considering the advice I was given and after some serious thinking I have decided to go for either the Virus C or the SupernovaII Rack, as they can do alot more than strings and pads and I will make a hell of a lot of use out of them.

Now that it is comming to purchasing the synth I would like to know if any one has any advice as to which I should go for. I have tested the synths and found them both to be excellent. But I didn't like the Supernovas effects, and it's percussive sounds seemed a bit weak. The reverb sounds absolutely terrible. Nor did I like the Virus interface, in particular the way that you have to use the menu to access the third oscilator (ironic from a company called access) but the virus did sound bloody fantastic. The thing is, I only got about an hour to try them out so I have booked two hours with the shop to give them a good workout. Does any one have anything to tell me about either synth? Particularly, anything that I should look out for when testing them? Do either have any limitations that the other covers? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your help!

Steve.

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Message 11/43 09-Aug-02 @ 09:06 PM - RE: Need some serious advice...

Steve Roughley

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K, the money is comming at a cost. I won't be able to go out, eat, or generally live for about 3 months. But with the new kit, I wouldn't have done any of those things anyway. As long as I can afford enough beer to keep me going

Thanks for all of your help guys!

Steve.

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Message 12/43 09-Aug-02 @ 10:20 PM - RE: Need some serious advice...

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I find it hard to believe that you would find something to complain about the virus C series!

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Message 13/43 09-Aug-02 @ 11:35 PM - RE: Need some serious advice...

Steve Roughley

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The main thing that I was worried about is buying one or the other and finding a problem or feature that was solved on the one that I didn't purchase.

Regards.

Steve.

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Message 14/43 11-Aug-02 @ 07:43 PM - RE: Need some serious advice...

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if you use them more you will start to hear the little digital buzz in the high end of the filter on the supernova and the inherant steps. it is no where near as realistic and creamy as the virus with the smoothing feature. it caculates the steps between the midi contolers to smooth out the filter transitions. Also when layering tracks the supernova's tends to get muddy quick since the sounds are kind of puffy and round with a lot of hamonics. the virus is sharper and cleaner when layered and leaves more space for sounds to break through. 16 verses 8 parts. both good, but the virus is a better value.

I have a juno 106, and a mks-80 super jupiter for sale. they are both great for pads , but the mks-80 is the creamiest I have had the pleasure of playing. and the leads on it are sick.

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Message 15/43 11-Aug-02 @ 11:58 PM - RE: Need some serious advice...

Steve Roughley

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That's the kind of info that I am after. Cheers for your help Brett.

Regards.

Steve.

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Message 16/43 12-Aug-02 @ 10:11 AM - RE: Need some serious advice...

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Have to say I feel ya on the "buy one, wish for the other thing" but there are SO many satisfied virus users..and...well..sadly there are plenty of upset novation customers!

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Message 17/43 12-Aug-02 @ 10:09 PM - RE: Need some serious advice...

Scott Digweed

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Hold on a second there... before you go off and buy the Virus C, consider this alternative:

Waldorf Q series.

I have a uQ and the pads are AWESOME. But they are DIFFERENT than my Virus B pads. uQ analog string pads and simulated wind pads are a bit brighter and airy than the Virus, i.e. they sound a bit "higher resolution" to my ears. You won't hear any stepping in the uQ filters. I am NOT saying the uQ is better than the Virus. It really is a matter of personal taste.

Go out and play the uQ and Virus. You have to hear them in person to know the difference I am describing.

Best of Luck!

Scott

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Message 18/43 12-Aug-02 @ 10:40 PM - RE: Need some serious advice...

brett

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those waldorf knobs a crap. they are full rotary 360, but the catch is they are velocity sensetive. so when you turn them qucikly they jump to some position far from where you were making it very dificult to tweek an acid line fast. or do any edit where you need to do a fast trun then go back to where you were. so forget about that. they are only good for editing the soudns not realtime tweeking. I ended up using an external controler for my microwave xt. i was pissed. i only got the xt for all the extra knobs and they did me no good. They are how ever dirt cheap now. You can get a uQ for around $400 new. nova musikj and others are blowing them out. But the virus is the virus, and would have one any day over a Q. Nothing except a nord gets hard and edgy like a virus. And the nord is only 4part. the virus is 16 with good fx.

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Message 19/43 12-Aug-02 @ 10:58 PM - RE: Need some serious advice...

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but..the XT...the knobs arent the same on the newer Q and the like...

but yeah..forgot about waldorf (didnt the original post ask only about novation and access?)...

then theres the full blown Qsynth..pretty ill!

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Message 20/43 12-Aug-02 @ 11:36 PM Edit: 12-Aug-02 | 11:45 PM - RE: Need some serious advice...

Steve Roughley

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Yeah, I've been recommended the Waldorf and the Nord synths by a couple of local producers. The Nord modular looks awesome, but a bit OTT for what I am after. What are the Kurzweils like? These have also been recommended, but aren't very hands-on (buttons not knobs).

Regards.

Steve.

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