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Original Message Date: 31-Oct-02 @ 01:42 PM - Who is the enemy
Message 11/138 31-Oct-02 @ 08:29 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
But if you are a racist or are culturaly predjudiced you will hear 'Allah' as the call to arms of of some fanatic group rather than simply 'God' in another language...
Now.. Bush says 'God' this and that always about the USA, so if he spoke a different language he'd say 'Allah'
simple but you seem to want to suggest it means something entirely different.
Regarding the nazi party, they used tons of Christian Knights imagery in their posters etc, and yes, the vatican DID apease them - BUT the point is, we DONT (quite rightly) attack 'christianity' because of evil regimes in christian countries - but for some reason we feel that it's ok to attack 'another' religion wholesale due to the antic's of one dictator who 'happens' to be in an islamic country.
that formant is pathetic. That'd be like arresting all the monsigniors or whatever they are called from the main cathederals because of the IRA who happened to be in a 'christian' country & catholics - that would be rediculous - BUT, that is in effect what is happening all over the world with Islamic church leaders.
and why?... cos they decry the modern westernised world and it's lack of ethics & humanity?... so does the church if it comes to that albeit more subtley, but that is purely cultural differences of accepted public behaviour. As far as I know it's NOT 'terrorism' to criticise the USA no matter how harshly, or i and most of my freinds would be a classed as 'terrorists' & locked up with the rest of them...
I mean football fans all over the world... they go to other countries, into peoples communities & attack people, smash up public places & peoples businesses & cars, attack & injure or maim and sometimes kill people from time to time... do they ban football & arrest the club chairmen and Fifa officials?.. nope... but what if those footie fans were muslims, or anti-capitalists?
what they do is, they pool intelligence and arrest the proven leaders and troublemakers, take them to court, show the evidence and lock them up - they dont cart them off and hold them indefinately without trial. I like footie, but does that make me a hooligan by association with the sport???
So, no big beef... but get with reality. All I'm saying is, lets have a level playing feild and less hypocracy of hiding/disguising what is nothing more than blatant white cultural & imperial racism against another group who look/live differently.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 12/138 31-Oct-02 @ 08:35 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
If our Attorney General (the chief of law enforcement in the US) has his way it will be, and you will!
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Message 13/138 31-Oct-02 @ 09:10 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
Don't matter if they are muslims, dictators, 'democratically' elected leaders, religious zealots, white, brown, black whatever.. if your god is power then you must make sacrifice to that god...
All hail mammon...
Message 14/138 31-Oct-02 @ 09:14 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
I dont hate the entirety of american culture, just the shallow blind consumerism that is unfortunately the majority
and I dont have the entirety of the governmental system, just the oppressive elitist wealthy fat fucks who consistently squash lives and livelihoods with impunity.
were you calling me out? do I seem that transparent?
Message 15/138 31-Oct-02 @ 09:40 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
the secret is easy - whatever they say, the opposite is always true - hence their favourite words/phrases are:
'peace', 'democracy', 'freedom', 'truth' (& especialy) 'lets be clear about this'
when in fact the opposite is always true. These are now meaningless words and phrases, mouthed by politicians and corporate hierarchy, and the populace drools obediently like pavlovian dogs when they hear those words. Control. fear. control.
However, what confuses me, is what has happened to Bush & his cronies recently to make them suddenly back down and change their tune about Iraq... something serious we don't know about. Bush looked positively rattled to me when he came on TV to announce it. I wonder what happened
still, we have our good points in life regardless... Like seeing Arsenal brought down a peg.
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 17/138 31-Oct-02 @ 10:09 PM Edit: 31-Oct-02 | 10:11 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
word to that k... it's time the people took back the democracy that belongs to THEM.... there are many people who are sick to death of all of this corruption and the corporate oligarchy, but there are many more who are blind and happy.....
the question becomes: what is the best way to raise awareness and affect some real change?
I smell a revolution, but which way is the wind blowing?
Message 18/138 31-Oct-02 @ 10:22 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
love TRUTH or BUG BEANS or whatever because it is TRUTH or BUG BEANS. not america because it is TRUTH or BUG BEANS because if proof then double which is not BUG BEANS because i love them yum!
Message 19/138 31-Oct-02 @ 10:35 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
I cant think of anywhere else that offers so much opportunity
sadly that opportunity comes with a large price
please speak in simple terms when addressing the simple-minded, ok?
Message 20/138 31-Oct-02 @ 11:16 PM - RE: Who is the enemy
Can be used to counter what xoxos?
But you're definitely on to something there mate. That has to be one of the major causes of problems for any country, the new western coutries in particular. This belief that the country is as it was intended to be. Sure, the original American concept, for example, was a good one, but it is just that; a concept. Yet, much of the powers that be (government, voters, etc) continue to apply this concept when they attempt to view the country as it is today. Inevitably, this causes problems. But there ya go. That's the joke! Geddit? It's only funny for a short while.
Regards.
Steve.
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