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Subject: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Original Message Date: 12-Mar-03 @ 10:37 AM - Kick Vs Bass. Again.
The second thing that really seems to annoy me is how all these articles say that if you “have to” use a heavy sounding kick, then you SHOULD ONLY play a bassline that doesn’t fall on any quarter notes (kicks). That’s rubbish. I don’t want to sound “trance” or proggy”.
Thirdly, all these articles across the WWW talk about viewing your mix as a jigsaw and finding “a pocket” for every sound. Now I can understand that but if the kick and bass occupy the same frequencies then what do you do? I have a Mackie desk so I’m stuck with a Lo eq of 80hz. I usually give both kick and bass a little 3db at 80 Hz boost. Now, my question is how do you guys eq the kick and bass in the low and hi mid area? I usually make a small cut at 250 Hz on the bass to try and make room for the kick. How do you guys work your kick and bass combinations?
Message 11/30 13-Mar-03 @ 01:02 PM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Message 12/30 13-Mar-03 @ 02:15 PM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Message 13/30 13-Mar-03 @ 03:21 PM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Message 14/30 13-Mar-03 @ 05:18 PM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
ok, lets put it this way:
if you want to do some fine work like i described and want a transparent eq, then i'd rather use software because a)most h/w units in mid price range arent well enough specified (that tla ivory has max Q of 5, whereas you'd need about 10 if you want to do some serious hairsplitting) and b) good enough units are bloody expensive.
if on the other hand, you want a musical sounding eq for some sound shaping then yes, i'd say that an analog parametric can perhaps beat a s/w unit, but you'll still have to choose carefully. tl-audio is decent, but nothing that will blow you away soundwise. focusrite greens also. there was an old TC eq which was also ok, if a little noisy if i remember correctly.
if you wanna know what i would do, well i'd stick to plugins really. they may not be mind blowing, but i doubt you'll be able to get better results without shelling out some serious dough.
anyway, there are few peeps here who have even more experience than me gear-wise and may pitch in a comment or two...
cheers, m.
Message 15/30 14-Mar-03 @ 10:12 AM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
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Message 16/30 14-Mar-03 @ 11:03 AM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
I use exclusively soft sythns for everything apart from bass. I use my virus for bass. Logics es1 and es2 sit ontop of the virus bass really nicely. Just seems to fit together nicely. Its taken me 3 years to finally arrive at a set up that makes me sound more like the producers I rate. I've gone through quite alot of different gear combinations but the single best decision I made was to go soft (apart from the bass). I sound alot better now plus its so faster to work.
Message 17/30 14-Mar-03 @ 12:14 PM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Message 18/30 14-Mar-03 @ 12:59 PM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Message 19/30 16-Mar-03 @ 07:50 PM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
Two....put an EQ in front of your compressor. It won't hurt you.
You're welcome.
Ape
Message 20/30 16-Mar-03 @ 11:35 PM - RE: Kick Vs Bass. Again.
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