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Subject: It never stops
Original Message Date: 17-Sep-01 @ 04:14 AM - It never stops
peace to you all
Yonce
Message 21/39 20-Sep-01 @ 04:38 PM - RE: It never stops
Message 22/39 20-Sep-01 @ 04:45 PM - RE: It never stops
Message 23/39 20-Sep-01 @ 05:15 PM - RE: It never stops
me thinks that pongoid has a new mantra ;)
Message 24/39 20-Sep-01 @ 05:17 PM - RE: It never stops
Mixing requires playing the tune thru for every single track to make the neccessary adjustments. If there are 20 tracks in a 5 min. tune, this means at least 1 hour and 45 minutes for panning adjustments (20 X 5 min.), another 1 hour and 45 minutes for volume adjustments, and sometimes even more time for realtime eq adjustments in programs like Cubase.
And that's just hands-on time...It takes even more time to think about, analyze, and then practice what you're doing before you do it. If I don't give myself at least 8-9 hours to mix down a 5 minute tune then I feel that I'm doing it a disservice
Message 25/39 20-Sep-01 @ 05:59 PM - RE: It never stops
Message 26/39 20-Sep-01 @ 07:48 PM - RE: It never stops
what..you listen to every track INDIVIDUALLY? holy anal retentives batman!!!
sensoniq..got an offering for you. A song is a combination of parts, right? those parts have to work together right? so mix TOGETHER. not sayin a solo here and there to check fine tuning but...wow
Message 27/39 20-Sep-01 @ 10:35 PM Edit: 20-Sep-01 | 10:37 PM - RE: It never stops
anyway, i LOVE mixing, even more that the rest of the process. i even do it for other people. eq-ing, compressing, setting the reverbs and the rest...mmmm... especialy if you have acces to nice gear, its a real pleasure.
Message 28/39 20-Sep-01 @ 10:53 PM - RE: It never stops
damballah do you have a link to that mantra thingy. that's korg right?
Message 29/39 21-Sep-01 @ 04:32 AM - RE: It never stops
In other words, since I am not an octopus with dozens of arms I do one thing at a time: play the song all the way thru to affect track 1 panning, then play it all the way thru again to affect track 1 volume, then play it thru again for track 2 panning, thru again for track 2 volume, etc. etc.
Don't you all focus on one mix adjustment at a time per play too, or are there a few octopi in the midst?
Message 30/39 21-Sep-01 @ 04:58 AM - RE: It never stops
I have a body of work that's immense, and the stuff I've recorded is only a tenth of the stuff I've composed. Most of it gets discarded. That's how you grow. You don't try to revolutionize the world with every piece. You practice getting the basics right, and do studies in sound constantly, and each piece is an evolution; and once in a while if you're lucky, you have a breakthrough, where you grow in a leap. Very rarely does one land precisely on their feet, and the breakthrough comes out perfectly, rather that it teaches you something radical, that soon becomes another basic for you to draw upon for your subsequent creations.
You grow by trying new things, not just sitting on the same thing over and over. If you're not changing something each time you mess with a piece, it's done and either you record it and move on, or you chuck it and move on. Either way, you move on. When your piece if ready, hopefully you'll notice some new aspect each time you listen to it. If you listen to the piece after it's recorded ten times in a row, and it still sounds good, then it's good. If not, then it's just a lesson. Maybe this should be in the theory section.
Ape
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