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Original Message Date: 25-Jul-02 @ 11:06 AM Edit: 25-Jul-02 | 11:08 AM - HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

Steve Roughley

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I am having major problems with my ES2. The problem:

Having used the ES2 for 2 days everything was running fine, and it sounded great! Then all of a sudden I load up my PC and Load up logic play a track I have been working on and the ES2 sounds like my kitchen sink garborator! I rebooted Logic and it sounded different but still crap! Now everything that I created with the ES2 sounds like shit! This is only happening with the ES2. Not with the ES1 or EXS24 (Allthough I haven't tried the EVOC). After contacting Emagic they suggested re-installing Logic, which I tried. That didn't work so I have just re-installed my entire OS (as suggested by Emagic support) and that worked for another 2 days then the ES2 reverted to spitting out garbled noise sounds.

I have the recent drivers for all of my hardware and have installed SP2 for Win2K so all is up to date. Everything on my PC runs beautifully except the ES2. I have checked on InfoWeb and various forums but it appears that I am the only person with this problem. Could somebody PLEASE help me? This is an absolute nightmare!

FYI, the other software that I have on the PC is:
Sonitus Plugins (Updated to R3)
Waves Gold Bundle
Win RAR
Sound Forge 4.5
Ohm Force OhmBoyz delay (VST)

My System is as follows:

Win2K Pro (SP2) Dual-Boot;
LAP5.1.3 (via updates from Logic 4.0);
Gigabyte GA-7DXR (AMD 761 north-bridge) BIOS F9;
AMD T-Bird 1.4Ghz 266FSB;
512MB DDR RAM PC2100;
Audiowerk 8 Audio I/F;
MT4 MIDI I/F;
Matrox G550 (Millenium) AGP Card;
21" Dell monitor, 19" Viglen Monitor;
IBM Deskstar 7200rpm ATA100 120GXP 40GB HDD (IDE channel 1);
Fujitsu 7200rpm ATA100 40GB HDD (IDE channel 3 W/ onboard Promise ATA100 Controller);
LG CDRW (IDE channel 2);

Thankyou in advance!

Steve.

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Message 21/53 29-Jul-02 @ 11:19 AM - RE: HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

Steve Roughley

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OK, I messed around with the Audiowerk drivers, but no effect. Liquidphire, could you let me know what system you are running (Hardware, Operating System, Plugins etc) to see if there is a link between our PCs that could be responsible for this problem? It would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

Steve.

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Message 22/53 29-Jul-02 @ 11:56 AM - RE: HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

liquidphire

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I know for the fact that with my setup it's an issue with Delta drivers. MIDIMAN is already aware of this problem and they're supposed to fix it with the next driver release. There's just a conflict of some sort when I'm using both sound cards. But I can give you my computer specs if you want:

-Gigabyte 7dxr MOBO
-Athlon XP 2000
-512 RDRAM
-IBM Deskstar 120gx(?) HDs 80 + 40 GB
-Windows XP Pro running as Standard PC (no ACPI installed)
-Delta 1010 and Delta 44 sound cards
-LAP 5

The problem that I'm experiencing is affecting (effecting? these 2 always confuse me) ALL Logic instruments and ALL VST instruments though, as long as I'm using ASIO or EASI drivers.

Sorry to hear you're having problems with your setup

I hope you can resolve it ASAP.

If I can be of any further help don't hesitate to ask.

Peace.

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Message 23/53 29-Jul-02 @ 12:39 PM Edit: 29-Jul-02 | 12:39 PM - RE: HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

Steve Roughley

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I have the same motherboard and hard disks as you. But, while the problem, as you experience it, is triggered off by the Delta drivers, this means it's the Audiowerk that may be causing the problem on my PC, and this suggests that there is nothing going on with the HDs. I have queried many other producers about this problem and I know that loads of people are successfully running Virtual Instruments with MIDIMAN delta drivers and with Audiowerk drivers. As I said, I have exactly the same board as you, GA7-DXR, so it looks like it is something to do with this board (if so, it is a shame as it is an amzing motherboard) that is not working with the Audio Cards. Which PCI slots are you using for your cards, in particular, which is the PCI slot of the card that you are disabling?

Thanks for your help!

Steve.

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Message 24/53 29-Jul-02 @ 11:11 PM - RE: HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

liquidphire

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No matter what card I disable, as long as only ONE of them is enabled at a time I will have no problems.

It is strange that we have the same motherboards though, I think one of the chips (south bridge?) on that motherboard is from VIA, and it has alway been known to be problematic with audio applications. I haven't tried this, but some people suggested to go to VIA home page and download their new 4in1 drivers. Maybe you should give it a shot?

Peace.

P.S. I'm pretty certain it's not your hard drives that are causing the problem.

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Message 25/53 29-Jul-02 @ 11:55 PM - RE: HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

Steve Roughley

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Yeah, I've done the VIA 4 in 1 thing, but I am thinking that if you can only run one Audio card to prevent this thing, then I am in trouble as Windows identifies my Audiowerk8 as 4 spearate Audio cards (4 stereo).

Oh well I am past worrying. I am just going to spend money on Hardware and never spend it on software. Not a bad thing though! :�)

Cheers again for your help!

Steve.

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Message 26/53 30-Jul-02 @ 12:48 AM - RE: HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

liquidphire

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No problem at all!

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Message 27/53 30-Jul-02 @ 01:03 PM - RE: HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

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"No matter what card I disable, as long as only ONE of them is enabled at a time I will have no problems."

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"Yeah, I've done the VIA 4 in 1 thing, but I am thinking that if you can only run one Audio card to prevent this thing, then I am in trouble as Windows identifies my Audiowerk8 as 4 spearate Audio cards (4 stereo)."

That's just the drivers... all 8 output cards show 4 sets of stereo drivers or 8 mono drivers.... however, you say about using only one card solves it ??.... So Liquidfire, you have two soundcards?.... and Steve's got a single card but with 4 pairs of drivers for the stereo 4 ports - it made me think

in your winblows multimedia/sounds settings do you have the same output driver selected for use by windows? - if yes mebbe that might cause something (ok it shouldnt but let's start guessing)

mebbe try selecting a completely different driver for windows sounds or disable windows sounds altogether?

it doesnt hurt to add the latest via 4-in-1 - check you have the latest... also your onboard audio is disabled of course right?

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Message 28/53 30-Jul-02 @ 03:15 PM Edit: 30-Jul-02 | 03:18 PM - RE: HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

Steve Roughley

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Thanks for the reply K! I gave your suggestions a go but to no avail. Just so everyone knows, here is the list of everything that I have tried:

Updated BIOS for Motherboard.

Updated BIOS for Graphics Card.

Updated drivers for everything on my motherboard (Northbridge and Southbridge chipsets, AGP, 4in1 drivers, IDE and RAID drivers, etc, etc.)

Disabled absolutely everything that isn't required, both in BIOS and Windows (ACPI functions, Parellel and Serial Ports, USB-2 and Legacy USB, AMR, On-board Audio, Windows modem etc, etc.)

Moved the PCI devices around.

Tried a different graphics card.

Installed all Win2K updates and bug fixes.

Updated drivers for Audio and MIDI H/W.

Altered Windows audio and audio driver settings.

Altered system IRQ assignments.

Uninstalled and re-installed Windows and all other software.

Altered power configurations and display settings.

Resolved hardware and software conflicts.

That's all I can think of right now, however, I am sure that there are a couple of other things that I could try. Any ideas?

Thank you all so much for your help!

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Message 29/53 30-Jul-02 @ 09:37 PM - RE: HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

Stvy

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Hi,

I can't imagine after doing all that, that its a problem with logic. I'd get on the blower to EMagic ASAP. They have too correct/fix bugs as part of trade regulations when they sell software in the EU at least.

Sorry my only contribution doesn't help that much.

Cheers

Steve

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Message 30/53 01-Aug-02 @ 10:49 PM - RE: HELP!!!!! ES2 is severely screwed!

Zazza

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If you turn your computer off and leave it for an hour or
so then try your ES2 does ti work?

It could be as simple as an overheating CPU..

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