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Subject: Why are there no single-hit CDs?
Original Message Date: 12-Jan-04 @ 04:17 PM - Why are there no single-hit CDs?
So, does anybody have any suggestions for real drums? I need rock kits, I'm totally covered on electronic drums. No loops, but I guess they'd be OK if they came on the CDs with the regular kits I prefer Akai format, but also Emu will work, or I could deal with .wav and build my own program I guess, but I'd prefer Akai or Emu.
I'm also looking for a CD of pads and orchestral instruments. The key with the orchestral instruments is that I don't want to spend a ton of money on a big orchestra set, but I also don't want the samples to sound like doo doo either.
Any suggestions?!?
-Craig
Message 21/39 20-Jan-04 @ 02:33 PM - RE: Why are there no single-hit CDs?
Message 22/39 20-Jan-04 @ 06:37 PM - RE: Why are there no single-hit CDs?
Message 23/39 27-Jan-04 @ 02:49 PM - RE: Why are there no single-hit CDs?
My major complaints are the fact that these kits basically eat your entire sampler. They use almost all the available memory and your entire effects board. This is cool in the studio, but what happens when I want to take those great drum sounds on the road? Well, I'm going to have a few hours of programming ahead of me so I can open up enough room for the rest of my set It'd be great if they'd provide 128MB versions of their kits like Akai does with their sampled pianos. Maybe after I've programmed them I'll share so they can be included on the CD or provided as a free download.
As a studio tool though, these drums are awesome. I was able to create a patch on my DTX to control the kit on the sampler quite easily (thanks to a nifty little keymap diagram that was included in the CD sleeve). Having access to a kit this realistic has transformed the usually cheesy-sounding DTX into a really nice sounding kit. I'll be having a real drummer around at some point soon who can give a better impression on the feel but the sound is really great and the velocity switching is incredibly smooth and realistic.
At around $120 US, the CD is a bit pricey for what amounts to one drumkit. But, these are probably the best sounding rock drums you're going to get out of a sampler. Highly recommended if you need one high quality, versatile drum kit.
-Craig
Message 25/39 27-Jan-04 @ 06:33 PM - RE: Why are there no single-hit CDs?
Some threads just seem to fade away into oblivion though many unanswered questions remains (i've followed many old and archived DT-topics with this problem).
The information Craig shared about 'Drumkit from Hell' is very useful especially for a hardware user like me. tho maybe i can forget to use it on my s3kXL (32 mb RAM) ;-)
Message 26/39 27-Jan-04 @ 06:47 PM - RE: Why are there no single-hit CDs?
K could use this as a review. I can add some additional thoughts when I have the time.
One really cool thing I think Psy metioned before is that for each multi you get three versions of the samples - one close miked, one close miked gated, and one room mike. So you can mix your ambiences to suit your needs. Really great stuff for studio.
-Craig
Message 27/39 28-Jan-04 @ 03:22 AM - RE: Why are there no single-hit CDs?
I love how they map out the kit.... I actually play my drum parts, fills and all, pretty much live on the keys. Something I've picked up from waiting for downloads all my life, I guess, but I can hold my own on a keyboard kit. The left/right hand mappings are perfect for people like me... and the velocity on the snare really is top notch.
It's a shame they don't give you a smaller versions in the akai version... that's kinda silly. I mean, some of those single hits ring out for 10+ seconds... that's unnecessary.
Message 28/39 28-Jan-04 @ 04:36 PM - RE: Why are there no single-hit CDs?
Of course all this is academic. The delays are so unpredictable that you cannot hope to work out how to fix it so it all comes down to “use your ears”. If you think it sounds wrong then fiddle with things until it sounds right. But I suppose it helps to know why it may sound wrong.
Deano
Message 29/39 28-Jan-04 @ 04:42 PM - RE: Why are there no single-hit CDs?
Message 30/39 28-Jan-04 @ 05:52 PM - RE: Why are there no single-hit CDs?
-Craig
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