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Subject: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
Original Message Date: 25-Mar-06 @ 05:21 PM Edit: 25-Mar-06 | 05:32 PM - Arresting people in bars for being drunk
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Message 21/36 01-Apr-06 @ 01:09 PM - RE: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
oh jeez I missed that.
only in Texas, I guess. no surprise
I always loved how you could drink til your eyes turned clear, but..the minute you step outside youre a nuisance
well, dont expect me to argue we dont do stupid shit with our laws.
only in Texas, I guess. no surprise
I always loved how you could drink til your eyes turned clear, but..the minute you step outside youre a nuisance
well, dont expect me to argue we dont do stupid shit with our laws.
Message 22/36 03-Apr-06 @ 08:16 PM - RE: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
So, they lay some patently stupid something law on you then just when you are about to get your marker pen and signboard out to protest they come out with another even more stupid rule and you find yourself protesting about the latest idiocy and leaving the original stupid idea. In the end they get the first stupid approved and ma ny time the second idiot move in as well.
Then I though "intergovernmental confrernces" and how they need to come up with crazier and crazier shit that the public swallows so they can get paid big bux to get invited speak at ....intergovermental conferences
read weep read weep write drink weep become hardened by your own words
Then I though "intergovernmental confrernces" and how they need to come up with crazier and crazier shit that the public swallows so they can get paid big bux to get invited speak at ....intergovermental conferences
read weep read weep write drink weep become hardened by your own words
Message 23/36 03-Apr-06 @ 08:33 PM - RE: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
hey... but think of the revenue opportunities!
give people driving licences, then FINE then for driving!!
perfect!
so i take it the Texas licence above a bar doesn't say:
"Licenced to sell intoxicating liquor"
? cso the lawyers would have a field day with that
give people driving licences, then FINE then for driving!!
perfect!
so i take it the Texas licence above a bar doesn't say:
"Licenced to sell intoxicating liquor"
? cso the lawyers would have a field day with that
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 24/36 02-Jun-06 @ 06:33 AM Edit: 02-Jun-06 | 06:34 AM - RE: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
What frightens me is that soon there will be a majority of people under the influence of prescribed psychoactive that they will be considered the norm and any differentiation, the slightest eccentricity, the smallest behavioral difference, will be seen as deviant. Normal, unmedicated behavior will soon be seen as suspicious.
Behaviorally normalizing society with prescribed medications, immobilizing them by making travel unaffordable to all but the elite, compiling phone records and purchases, suspicious elections, are creating a disturbing atmosphere in this country. I’m not a conspiracy nut or more paranoid than the average person in America who tries to stay informed about current events but what is happening in this country doesn’t feel like a simple series of random events. Is it that the overall character of the average citizen in the US, our national character, has become so bereft of virtue that we genuinely don’t care? Do our liberties mean anything to us anymore?
If that is the case than the “War on Terrorism” was lost upon its declaration. They got what they wanted. With only a few planes terrorists destroyed America by destroying that very thing that we chose to define our country, that thing that we touted as being the very foundation of America: liberty. The pursuit of happiness has become the pursuit of better medications.
Fuck all, I’m full of shit.
Behaviorally normalizing society with prescribed medications, immobilizing them by making travel unaffordable to all but the elite, compiling phone records and purchases, suspicious elections, are creating a disturbing atmosphere in this country. I’m not a conspiracy nut or more paranoid than the average person in America who tries to stay informed about current events but what is happening in this country doesn’t feel like a simple series of random events. Is it that the overall character of the average citizen in the US, our national character, has become so bereft of virtue that we genuinely don’t care? Do our liberties mean anything to us anymore?
If that is the case than the “War on Terrorism” was lost upon its declaration. They got what they wanted. With only a few planes terrorists destroyed America by destroying that very thing that we chose to define our country, that thing that we touted as being the very foundation of America: liberty. The pursuit of happiness has become the pursuit of better medications.
Fuck all, I’m full of shit.
Message 25/36 02-Jun-06 @ 01:35 PM - RE: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
yeah er... Liberty?... it was always a myth i think innit? but yes, i know what you're saying about normalising behaviour, but also society does that inherently itself as well surely?
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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 26/36 02-Jun-06 @ 02:06 PM Edit: 02-Jun-06 | 02:08 PM - RE: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
I liked that comment about American liberty that went "Free to do what..?"
No I think society is loosing it's voice, demonstrators are agitators and laws (temporary or permanent) pop up everywhere to limit freedoms. Certainly the plethora of new media (blogs, forums, email etc) act to dilute our free speech where everything (including the spun rhetoric of the politico's) becomes background noise for a speechless society, who can be the hero? why would they not sell it up for the large buck?
Then society changes?, Can you measure a society under such change, is there a precedent? Such massive amounts of communication, accelerating technological advance, effects of globalisation, our old friend intergovernmental conference, the increasingly understood masses (did they know less yesterday, have we changed much since then?) and the increasingly public merging of corp and nation.
SO, you go to the disco and it was great, you tell your firends, within weeks all your friends go there..., then mobile phones come and you go to the disco and it is great and you call your mates and tonight IS the night.
I have no problem here, I am conflicted between classics and fashion
When will be the Age of Reason?
No I think society is loosing it's voice, demonstrators are agitators and laws (temporary or permanent) pop up everywhere to limit freedoms. Certainly the plethora of new media (blogs, forums, email etc) act to dilute our free speech where everything (including the spun rhetoric of the politico's) becomes background noise for a speechless society, who can be the hero? why would they not sell it up for the large buck?
Then society changes?, Can you measure a society under such change, is there a precedent? Such massive amounts of communication, accelerating technological advance, effects of globalisation, our old friend intergovernmental conference, the increasingly understood masses (did they know less yesterday, have we changed much since then?) and the increasingly public merging of corp and nation.
SO, you go to the disco and it was great, you tell your firends, within weeks all your friends go there..., then mobile phones come and you go to the disco and it is great and you call your mates and tonight IS the night.
I have no problem here, I am conflicted between classics and fashion
When will be the Age of Reason?
Message 27/36 02-Jun-06 @ 09:01 PM - RE: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
K,
I believe that also, however, at least in the past the illusion was actively maintained by the government. Now it seems that the government has become so brazen as to actively and overtly mount a campaign to reduce civil liberties with no apology worth believing nor any concern as to whether we believe it or not. It's as if they have realized that the citizens don't care so they may as well take advantage of the opportunity. One day everyone may wake up and they will see that their world has changed beyond their ability to influence it.
Cheddar I see your point too, we are all entertaining ourselves to death and it is a lot of fun, so much easier. There will come a time though when the rest of the world will begin to see us as our own government has come to. The world will look upon the US people, not the government, and resolve that we cannot control our government and so not only must our government cease to exist but so must the governed. If we don't wake up soon, they will have a valid reason for their belief and subsequent action.
When we have no allies remaining we will not be powerful enough to win a multi-lateral global attack on US soil. We can barely keep up with our military "commitments" now. The world sees our behavior modeling that of our government. We lament about how we don't have a voice and elections don't work while other newer democracies have a voter turn out that should shame us. We lament about how we can't control our government while other citizens in other countries who have lost control of their governments fight to their restoration. Increasingly we are seen to be lazy and apathetic toward our officials' obvious abuses of power. The rest of the world is watching and if we don't take real verifiable actions to turn things around, the rest of the world - all of it - will take the matter into their own hands. If we can't find our way to action in a peaceful democracy how will we find our way to action in a war zone? We will lose. Everything.
If you don't know how to take care a nice thing like the US someone out there will make it so you can't have nice things anymore.
FYI
It's good to keep coming back here; not nearly as much as I used to, granted; and see that it still inspres the kind of discussion I grew to love about DT. I may actually have some some music to post soon. Whoo whoo!
I believe that also, however, at least in the past the illusion was actively maintained by the government. Now it seems that the government has become so brazen as to actively and overtly mount a campaign to reduce civil liberties with no apology worth believing nor any concern as to whether we believe it or not. It's as if they have realized that the citizens don't care so they may as well take advantage of the opportunity. One day everyone may wake up and they will see that their world has changed beyond their ability to influence it.
Cheddar I see your point too, we are all entertaining ourselves to death and it is a lot of fun, so much easier. There will come a time though when the rest of the world will begin to see us as our own government has come to. The world will look upon the US people, not the government, and resolve that we cannot control our government and so not only must our government cease to exist but so must the governed. If we don't wake up soon, they will have a valid reason for their belief and subsequent action.
When we have no allies remaining we will not be powerful enough to win a multi-lateral global attack on US soil. We can barely keep up with our military "commitments" now. The world sees our behavior modeling that of our government. We lament about how we don't have a voice and elections don't work while other newer democracies have a voter turn out that should shame us. We lament about how we can't control our government while other citizens in other countries who have lost control of their governments fight to their restoration. Increasingly we are seen to be lazy and apathetic toward our officials' obvious abuses of power. The rest of the world is watching and if we don't take real verifiable actions to turn things around, the rest of the world - all of it - will take the matter into their own hands. If we can't find our way to action in a peaceful democracy how will we find our way to action in a war zone? We will lose. Everything.
If you don't know how to take care a nice thing like the US someone out there will make it so you can't have nice things anymore.
FYI
It's good to keep coming back here; not nearly as much as I used to, granted; and see that it still inspres the kind of discussion I grew to love about DT. I may actually have some some music to post soon. Whoo whoo!
Message 28/36 02-Jun-06 @ 09:47 PM - RE: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
hey mate, yeah, well, trouble is when we had discussions like that people just ran off all mardy cos they were upset or didnt like to be told to calm down, we could get the the forum back on form again if people just came round regularly with any stuff of interest they find out there in www-land or just to add a comment or post, cos it snowballs of course, the more people post, the more people join in.... It's a shame to waste the one site which gives the most freebies facilities of any tech site just cos of a current slip to low forum performance. Plenty of people keep signing up and adding music, but if there was more people on the forums they'd prolly join in more.
actualy, some organisation did a poll recently about what people want to feel happy in life. Plenty of stuff came out, one of which was the removal of aspirational advertising & the re-nationalising of the transport system
Society is conditioned by TV and other advertising brainwashing (which is all it is) to totaly value themselves based on possessions they aquire, which is weird, and of course studio tech people are one of the worst for this with their endless "Is the FUK-U78001 Pro quality?" squawking, or their "Ha ha ha, I don't own behringer gear, ergo I am superior and a serious musician" rubbish. (cue endless self congratulatory back-slapping & male 'my knobs bigger'n your knob' type bonding)
people can't think for themselves tho, if they go off and go all 'alternative' they usualy just buy into another alt' dogma and go round spouting that instead... it's hard not to tho admittedly, but go to speakers corner in London and it's just people trotting out some stuff they've aligned themselves to.
yeah, the US economy is utterly & totaly fucked, debt is MASSIVE, huge, humungous in fact.. I see the Chinese stock market had a boost yesterday - hey, what about the DAEWO head eh... 11 fuckin years man!!!! Ras!
anyways, back to BEST OF CRIBS......
actualy, some organisation did a poll recently about what people want to feel happy in life. Plenty of stuff came out, one of which was the removal of aspirational advertising & the re-nationalising of the transport system
Society is conditioned by TV and other advertising brainwashing (which is all it is) to totaly value themselves based on possessions they aquire, which is weird, and of course studio tech people are one of the worst for this with their endless "Is the FUK-U78001 Pro quality?" squawking, or their "Ha ha ha, I don't own behringer gear, ergo I am superior and a serious musician" rubbish. (cue endless self congratulatory back-slapping & male 'my knobs bigger'n your knob' type bonding)
people can't think for themselves tho, if they go off and go all 'alternative' they usualy just buy into another alt' dogma and go round spouting that instead... it's hard not to tho admittedly, but go to speakers corner in London and it's just people trotting out some stuff they've aligned themselves to.
yeah, the US economy is utterly & totaly fucked, debt is MASSIVE, huge, humungous in fact.. I see the Chinese stock market had a boost yesterday - hey, what about the DAEWO head eh... 11 fuckin years man!!!! Ras!
anyways, back to BEST OF CRIBS......
___________________________________
I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!
Message 29/36 03-Jun-06 @ 03:41 AM - RE: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
You're all terribly confused and way off the mark! As national leader of the local Fotzepolitik party (motto: equality for all), allow me to explain...
The brain is an organ that operates due to chemical reaction. Much like a car, or a guitar string (to keep things relevant), or a potato. There are interpretations of definite, unquestionable scientic data to back-up this statement (I can personally attest to this as I have seen pictures of brain scans myself). Certain chemicals produce better quality people (such as Ghandi, Mother Therresa, Einstein, Newton, Florence Nightingale, Tony Blair, etc), whereas other chemicals produce faulty people like Ghengis Khan, Slobby Dan Milosoveridgeidish (sp?), Mugabe, Tony Blair, etc.
When your car/string/potato no longer functions properly, you throw it away and buy a new one, as any good consumer would. A Ford Model T is simply not as efficient as a modern Ferrari or Volvo, and old cars go rusty and stop working. A old guitar string loses its moisture and odour and doesn't look as shiny as a new string. An old potato developes those ugly tumescent growths and goes black, whereas the new Monsanto chemo-spud-u-like will reform itself overnight if left in the bread bin under light of a secret frequency. But, at the risk of being called a pinko-liberal, people cannot be replaced so easily (immigration restrictions, ageing process, etc). If our lot are to survive in these dark and troubling times of lack of deference and disobedience, we must become more efficient.
It's just a matter of discovering which chemicals do what. Imagine how happy you will all be when you can take a tablet/injection/enema to make you happy to work 7 days a weeks and be happy. No more lapses of concentration, no more time wasting (talking & laughing with colleagues, etc). Just a deep, satisfying happiness! Every tune you make will make everyone equally happy, and every tune anyone else makes will make you happy! No need for money. Your benefactor (or to use the old term, employer) will provide a place for you to sleep during shortages of am-phekin-awake (TM) and a place to consume your other pills. No need to shit either, any byproduct can be sweated out and recycled.
There is of course another solution to the Jonny Foreigner (JF) problem. Here in Staffordshire, England, in the heartland of our land of hope and glory, where folk have been Tory since the Norman invasion (damn those French - we haven't forgotten!), where fox hunting is a right of passage and corruption is institutionalised, here we have started to profit from, wait for it, arms dealings! Our County Council has invested £13.1 million in the world's 15 biggest arms companies. Derbyshire (the nearest other county to where I live) has invested £17.4 million. Nationally it's £723 million. Doesn't that fill you fellow brits with a warm glowing feeling? Now that's what I call sensible use of council tax. As a Staffs CC spokesperson said, '... the authority employed an investment manager who drew up a criteria for socially responsible investments '
I also, am full of shit.
The brain is an organ that operates due to chemical reaction. Much like a car, or a guitar string (to keep things relevant), or a potato. There are interpretations of definite, unquestionable scientic data to back-up this statement (I can personally attest to this as I have seen pictures of brain scans myself). Certain chemicals produce better quality people (such as Ghandi, Mother Therresa, Einstein, Newton, Florence Nightingale, Tony Blair, etc), whereas other chemicals produce faulty people like Ghengis Khan, Slobby Dan Milosoveridgeidish (sp?), Mugabe, Tony Blair, etc.
When your car/string/potato no longer functions properly, you throw it away and buy a new one, as any good consumer would. A Ford Model T is simply not as efficient as a modern Ferrari or Volvo, and old cars go rusty and stop working. A old guitar string loses its moisture and odour and doesn't look as shiny as a new string. An old potato developes those ugly tumescent growths and goes black, whereas the new Monsanto chemo-spud-u-like will reform itself overnight if left in the bread bin under light of a secret frequency. But, at the risk of being called a pinko-liberal, people cannot be replaced so easily (immigration restrictions, ageing process, etc). If our lot are to survive in these dark and troubling times of lack of deference and disobedience, we must become more efficient.
It's just a matter of discovering which chemicals do what. Imagine how happy you will all be when you can take a tablet/injection/enema to make you happy to work 7 days a weeks and be happy. No more lapses of concentration, no more time wasting (talking & laughing with colleagues, etc). Just a deep, satisfying happiness! Every tune you make will make everyone equally happy, and every tune anyone else makes will make you happy! No need for money. Your benefactor (or to use the old term, employer) will provide a place for you to sleep during shortages of am-phekin-awake (TM) and a place to consume your other pills. No need to shit either, any byproduct can be sweated out and recycled.
There is of course another solution to the Jonny Foreigner (JF) problem. Here in Staffordshire, England, in the heartland of our land of hope and glory, where folk have been Tory since the Norman invasion (damn those French - we haven't forgotten!), where fox hunting is a right of passage and corruption is institutionalised, here we have started to profit from, wait for it, arms dealings! Our County Council has invested £13.1 million in the world's 15 biggest arms companies. Derbyshire (the nearest other county to where I live) has invested £17.4 million. Nationally it's £723 million. Doesn't that fill you fellow brits with a warm glowing feeling? Now that's what I call sensible use of council tax. As a Staffs CC spokesperson said, '... the authority employed an investment manager who drew up a criteria for socially responsible investments '
I also, am full of shit.
Message 30/36 03-Jun-06 @ 04:31 AM - RE: Arresting people in bars for being drunk
And marriage.
On the Teev show Question time this week, a bunch of politicians and writers discussed marriage and civil rights. The well-fed Labour woman (the one with Portillo on a couch on another show, This Week I think it's called), who usually says reasonable stuff, stated that though she supported rights for gay couples, she didn't for heterosexual couples who chose not to marry. 'They can choose' she said. Soon it will be 'but you can have full rights as a citizen 'if you choose to support the government'. Michael Winner spoke the most sense, though even he dragged out the old male & female roles thing (he's old, a generational thing I suppose)
Marriage to me is a weird religious ritual. I think it's bizarre, and so does the missus. We don't want to offer vows to someone else's divinity/ies. Surely making vows in a place of worship whose dogma I don't subscribe to is being disrespectful to that religion? If other folk want to marry then that's fine by me. I'll even show up and celebrate with them if I'm invited. They have that right. As with all such things, it is good that they have that right. I may think they're insane or misguided - that's my right. But they still have the right to be insane and misguided.
For those who blab about civic marriages, what is that but a mockery of a decayed religious act? Contracts are for business. If you hire me to do something, you'll need to sign to say you'll pay. It is prudent not to trust you at your word. I am not in business with my partner. I love her. Of all the reasons she feels bound to me, I know that a tawdry contract is not one of them. She's here because it is where she wants to be now, not because she agreed to be here now one day 21 yrs ago.
So if I snuff it after this last glass, my 'estate' will go to our lovely gov (unless I make a will, comply comply). If I'm hospital-ill, she might not be allowed to visit me. Many car insurance companies don't recognise 'living together', classifying me as single (which I'm not) and charging more, whereas some couple married for a week get charged less, because married people have less accidents!!! Arse.
What discriminatory crap.
And familly security is bollocks. Divorce can be a quick and straightforward process these days. You can unvow whenever you like.
And why couldn't I correct the spelling mistakes in the last post?
On the Teev show Question time this week, a bunch of politicians and writers discussed marriage and civil rights. The well-fed Labour woman (the one with Portillo on a couch on another show, This Week I think it's called), who usually says reasonable stuff, stated that though she supported rights for gay couples, she didn't for heterosexual couples who chose not to marry. 'They can choose' she said. Soon it will be 'but you can have full rights as a citizen 'if you choose to support the government'. Michael Winner spoke the most sense, though even he dragged out the old male & female roles thing (he's old, a generational thing I suppose)
Marriage to me is a weird religious ritual. I think it's bizarre, and so does the missus. We don't want to offer vows to someone else's divinity/ies. Surely making vows in a place of worship whose dogma I don't subscribe to is being disrespectful to that religion? If other folk want to marry then that's fine by me. I'll even show up and celebrate with them if I'm invited. They have that right. As with all such things, it is good that they have that right. I may think they're insane or misguided - that's my right. But they still have the right to be insane and misguided.
For those who blab about civic marriages, what is that but a mockery of a decayed religious act? Contracts are for business. If you hire me to do something, you'll need to sign to say you'll pay. It is prudent not to trust you at your word. I am not in business with my partner. I love her. Of all the reasons she feels bound to me, I know that a tawdry contract is not one of them. She's here because it is where she wants to be now, not because she agreed to be here now one day 21 yrs ago.
So if I snuff it after this last glass, my 'estate' will go to our lovely gov (unless I make a will, comply comply). If I'm hospital-ill, she might not be allowed to visit me. Many car insurance companies don't recognise 'living together', classifying me as single (which I'm not) and charging more, whereas some couple married for a week get charged less, because married people have less accidents!!! Arse.
What discriminatory crap.
And familly security is bollocks. Divorce can be a quick and straightforward process these days. You can unvow whenever you like.
And why couldn't I correct the spelling mistakes in the last post?
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