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Subject: Seeking TRANCE
Original Message Date: 30-Nov-00 @ 12:49 AM - Seeking TRANCE
Message 31/35 04-Feb-01 @ 06:28 PM - RE: Seeking TRANCE
also how far apart the monitors are makeas a hell of a difference....sitting behind your mixer about 4-5 feet from the speaker shelf they should be like 7 feet apart or so... not closer.... but experiment with a CD you like playing thru the speakers,,,,,, move them apart and check the mix, move them toghether... find the sweet spot!! -- too close and you loose stereo definition but also it changes the center point sound which is where the the bass/groove energy resides - to far apart and the middle of the mix starts to dissapear and again you are mixing to what you hear so you over emphasis the center 'punch' to compensate for it's 'dissapearence' and end up with again a crappy mix
having your speakers on the longest wall of the room helps the sound, like dont stuff your studio up into the small end of the room lengthways, use the width of the room - putting your tape & book shelves etc behind you facing the speakers helps to break up waves hitting the back wall.
Message 32/35 06-Feb-01 @ 03:19 PM - RE: Seeking TRANCE
I got to admit K that i'm "thinking" my EQ. Too much i guess. I'm watching the faders and counting frequencies. Really stupid when i think of it now...
(Trying to make everything to be heard is propably too problem of mixing one's own material.Guilty as charged anyway)
I live in metric system for gods sake!!!! Damn feets and pounds
I'll have to experiment with my "sweet spot" some more (no not that!)
Lately i've been struggling with the mix of one new track ("Squeez") but i just can't get bass right. Low offbeat "ooomph" seems to disappear when other instruments come in and at the end of the track it jumps out again. Besides i've have to leave that track to rest for a while becasue i have started to dislike it.
Not just selfish promoting but humbly asking for opinion... (above link)
Message 33/35 06-Feb-01 @ 06:40 PM - RE: Seeking TRANCE
Message 34/35 07-Feb-01 @ 07:30 PM - RE: Production stuff
The reason why your bass is getting muddy and losing power when extra sounds are added is because those extra sounds are carry too much bottom end and are cancelling out and distorting the bass frequencies from your offbeat bass.
The answer to this is to cut bass off those other sounds. Thin them out! People always thing in terms of addition when mixing, but cutting bass from one sound will allow other sounds to be heard clearer in the mix.
Your bottom end generally starts at about 300hz, so get all of your (assuming you`re writing trance) arps, pads and whatever else and cut about minus 2-3db off bottom of all of those sounds using a low shelving eq or a high pass filter.
Once the bottom has been removed from these components of your tune you`ll find that your mix will have headroom once again and the bass sound should reappear again.
Then it`s just a case of balancing things until everything has it own level of power.
Try and reduce things as much as you can with eq to the point where it is almost compromising sound quality, this will give you much more space/headroom in the mix.
Good luck!
Steve
Message 35/35 14-Feb-01 @ 11:13 PM - RE: Seeking TRANCE
Steve you seem to know quite a bit about producing/engineering,what music do you write? I have loads of questions I wouldn`t mind asking.
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