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Original Message Date: 18-Oct-02 @ 11:46 PM - brittle mixes

panama

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argh, I've got digital bite. A term I've heard about for harsh brittle mixes done a digital recording setup.

I've been noticing that a lot of my recordings are really brittle. I notice that the uppermids and highs mix together in this weird way causing a digital harshness that irritates the hell out of me. On a low volume everything sounds good--nice and smooth. But once I turn the volume up, ouch, my ears begin to bleed.

I think my problem is that I dont give enough headroom or make enough headroom by cutting off and rolling off frequencies. But this all makes me wonder... I use a digi 001 and I use it's mic pre's and inputs. Could there be any link in the 001 casuing a harsh sound? Or is it that I'm not knowledgable (sp?) enough in getting a good sound that mixes good together.

I hate that feeling when I turn up some music (on the same monitors) and get absolutely no harshness or bite. bums me out.

Anyone have any ideas on what I could do or what to improve with?

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Message 31/38 29-Oct-02 @ 07:42 PM - RE: brittle mixes

nomad

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i don't have a clue what you mean, but that's ok because i'm used to that ;)

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Message 32/38 29-Oct-02 @ 08:10 PM - RE: brittle mixes

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look, discerning whether something at 20k
and above is a square wave or a sine wave or
a triangle wave is only important if you've got a
tail and hump the legs of people visiting your
human. THIS ISN'T HELPING PANAMA!!!! :P

yo, panama, where are you getting your
distortion? the boss box?

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Message 33/38 30-Oct-02 @ 09:25 AM - RE: brittle mixes

panama

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yep... from the vf-1

I'm trying all new ways of recording. I'm used
to making sounds by processing and
re-processing sounds over and over. Now, I'm
getting what is good from start... this should
help the sound a bit.

my last mix wasn't as bad as I thought it was.
But I think I got that Pro Tools bottom end that
dissapears with guitars and basses. My
mixes are starting to sound pale now. Either
that or my ears are getting better and most
wouldnt notice the difference.

:-)

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Message 34/38 30-Oct-02 @ 03:33 PM - RE: brittle mixes

damballah

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well, if you distort everything through there, it could end up sounding kinda screechy. mebbe do that trick where you record the synth direct, dupe the sound, high-pass one and low-pass the other, then distort the high-passed one so you leave a little warmth and balls to the tone. you're using an sh and a juno, right? you should be able to have warmth out the wazoo. you could just be overprocessing stuff.

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Message 35/38 30-Oct-02 @ 05:11 PM - RE: brittle mixes

nomad

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screechiness is around 3k. try reducing there.

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Message 36/38 30-Oct-02 @ 07:26 PM - RE: brittle mixes

panama

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wow! this thread has been really helpful to me. Dont wanna sound gay and all but this has been very self actualizing for my music and my mixes. thanks all. not one more shitty mix to come! :-)

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Message 37/38 30-Oct-02 @ 07:50 PM - RE: brittle mixes

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even the sample rate shit helped?

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Message 38/38 30-Oct-02 @ 08:09 PM - RE: brittle mixes

panama

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ppl were paying attention to that stuff? :-)

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