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Subject: bloody bass.................
Original Message Date: 31-May-05 @ 03:45 PM - bloody bass.................
Dominic
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I've tried writing basslines on all the octaves in all keys……..I've tried different settings on software compression, hardware compression, software distortion, hardware distortion, software overdrive, hardware overdrive, hi and low pass filters, cutting 40-50hz from the bottom end, layering, just using one oscillator, just using 2 oscillators, blah, blah, bloody blah……
What are you chaps using for bass? How can I get that phat sounding bass I hear on pro underground electronic house tracks……….? PLEASE…………………….I can do every other element (drums, leads, gated pads, SFX, mixing, production, limiting to a 7.5 out of 10 standard). I just cannot do bloody bass.......is there a secret VSTI?
Message 31/47 10-Jun-05 @ 06:29 PM - RE: bloody bass.................
monitor VERY quietely...almost inaudible. this has helped me a LOT, and I believe it would all but eliminate standing waves, reflections, etc
its a good way to train yourself to listen for the balance between tracks.
works for me
Message 32/47 11-Jun-05 @ 06:45 AM Edit: 11-Jun-05 | 06:46 AM - RE: bloody bass.................
A serious pair of headphones can also be an indispensable reference when mixing. I find I can judge the lowest octave quite nicely in a pair of Ultrasone HFI-700's.... they're the best I've found. They're slightly hyped in the bass department, but extremely tight. They should show you problems that would arise in a club situation. Highly recommended $250 purchase.
Message 33/47 11-Jun-05 @ 06:20 PM - RE: bloody bass.................
Message 34/47 11-Jun-05 @ 06:51 PM - RE: bloody bass.................
monitor VERY quietely...almost inaudible
that is a GREAT tip - it's true.... take a brteak, preferably overnight, then come back and as said, really low, tune in over time to the bass-end (well, it works for the whole mix too)
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Message 35/47 11-Jun-05 @ 09:33 PM - RE: bloody bass.................
in my experience, messing with EQ in headphones has been a bad idea...
Agreed, and I don't make most EQ choices this way. Doing levels in headphones is even worse usually. However, I feel choosing things like low rolloff points and slopes in a poorly-tuned room can be much more detrimental than doing it in a tight pair of headphones that you're very familiar with. When I'm mastering, I can either run back and forth between the sweetspot and the corners of the room or put on the Ultrasones when I'm choosing my bass cutoff. Guess which one I choose.
Yes, even professional studios have sonic issues that must be recognized and avoided.
Message 36/47 12-Jun-05 @ 05:34 AM - RE: bloody bass.................
my buddy was ravin about some phones...they were TOP DOLLAR tho...said he'd rather mix on those if he could...
crazy.
Message 37/47 12-Jun-05 @ 10:54 AM - RE: bloody bass.................
yeah, let me third the the idea about listening at barely audible levels. about the only way i can be sure about what i'm doing in my room.
Message 38/47 12-Jun-05 @ 12:55 PM - RE: bloody bass.................
Steve Roughley
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Message 39/47 12-Jun-05 @ 04:06 PM - RE: bloody bass.................
listening at barely audible levels, listening in the corner, listening from another room, listening at different levels on as many sources as you can, taking breaks every few hours or whenever you are unsure about what you are doing, and comparing your work to a similar yet well produced track from another person are all essential to getting the mix right.
any other tips for "DT quick'n'dirty guide to listening"?
another thing is to actually GO AND DO IT, not go "yeah yeah" and go back to what you were doing before!
Message 40/47 12-Jun-05 @ 05:52 PM - RE: bloody bass.................
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