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Original Message Date: 14-Jun-00 @ 05:51 AM - RE: computer vs. hardware

agonie

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oh dam, hit the return button, randomly
sorry guys...
let us talk about this topic:
in my opinion is using computer programs for creating samples (soft synths) not very useful.
1. for making music you need an INSTRUMENT you can rely to personally, appearence, functions vitalise your mind, a flat, shivering screen harms your creatrivity..
2. i don't like monitors! i have got a doepfer schaltwerk for composing in midi, much better than cubase

o.k. i agree: sequencing on a computer is standart, you have got better support and more offers.
i started to make music with my amiga (protracker!), still one of my cherriest machines, i do not doubt wheter it is easier to get a cheerful result on your comp than with your soundmachine, it is!

i am asking myself right now if music isn't in any realtion to machines, probably....

maybe i just this confusing tap is just a reaction on the current developement of the music market.

yet i am sure you cannot reproduce the sound of a music machine with a comp. (hmm..pulsar...letting the hardware in your co). the reason is as simply as hard to believe: hardware-problem, computer simulate, m-machines (of course! analogue babies, i love them) produce!

it could be that i am talking a lot of shit..in your perspective... i know what i am saying is true for me.. so let me have your comments...

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Message 41/48 28-Sep-00 @ 10:46 AM - RE: computer vs. hardware

Jasper

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that's something the an1x does well is that recordable loop thing. (ages since I owned it).. free-eg was it? but maybe your friend isn't exploiting logic fully.. how about the hyper editor??
I've got around 16 control sliders setup from the hyper to create repetative loops on my microwave2, in my opinion it's the best thing about the whole program.

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Message 42/48 28-Sep-00 @ 06:51 PM - RE: computer vs. hardware

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ive been having huge fun with vst,rewire & rebirth mods this week... messing with the controls is a bit fiddly especially some of the mods are almost impossible to read... s/w can be real good... as long as you CAN bash something to get the patterns in and add in drums, perc' etc parts then fine... but i think it's real important to be able to stand up and rock around to the track, walk up to the keyboard or pads while you are buzzing on the beat and tap in an overlay pattern/riff to go-with.

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Message 43/48 03-Oct-00 @ 07:21 AM - RE: computer vs. hardware

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the problem I have w/ the soft seq is trying to get it
to sound ruff.I started w/ hardware and like the saying
goes You'll have to pry my MPC out of my cold dead
fingers.I mean come on beats aren't supposed to sound
human It's called ELECTRONIC music for a reason.A word
of caution though the MPC3000 uses 480ppq and it
bites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Message 44/48 06-Oct-00 @ 04:41 PM - RE: computer vs. hardware

casparproject

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those high res stats are all well and good. until you realise that all midi clock messages are only 12ppq.

Peaceout,

Peter

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Message 45/48 06-Oct-00 @ 08:44 PM - RE: computer vs. hardware

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All I know is I wasted an 8ball kickdown to a studio owner to get frustrated w/ the timing on the 3000 and the first day I had my 2000xl I wrote 40 sequences there is definitely something afoul w/ the 3000 that is not present in the 60,60mkII,and 2000 series.Besides who wants to pay more for a drum machine that you can't visually edit with.My first sampler was a w-30 and the next a FZ-1 then A S950 gone in a month,ASR10 came next(Early OS sucked)then Emax II and Emulator II+HD,then a S3000xl,Then a S5000,and I got a CD3000 for $250 and sold it for $450 And then there's my trusty MPC2000XL w/ all the shitjacks except SMPTE and Flash rom.I have only had good success sequencing w/ w-30,VFXsd,Early Master tracks pro.I've tried Cubase Logic And even had a run w/ cakewalk before I took the PC back.I like to plat live without too much prearrangement and have found the MPC2000xl to be indespensible plus I have a road case for it and a gig bag for my 777 so it's easy for me to get around.My Mac has $3200 worth of video and codec compression software in it and I can take my finished projects to my associate's Sonic Solutions DVD creator and make Real DVDS not Porno quality DVDS like the ones made w/Sonic's DVDit for PC.

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Message 46/48 07-Oct-00 @ 05:05 PM - RE: computer vs. hardware

Spot

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Can you make quality porn DVDs though?

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Message 47/48 08-Oct-00 @ 05:48 PM - RE: computer vs. hardware

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I could!But I'm not an aspiring porn producer but if the damn things don't get any better I may have too:0

btw,go check my music over on "a working track by Hank D" thread there and post your impressions there.A good example of the sequencing tightness of the MPC2000XL.

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Message 48/48 18-Oct-00 @ 10:19 PM - RE: computer vs. hardware

TiC

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for all in doubt on the timing issue i can confirm.
some time ago i bought the mc-303 to get a portable sequencer to put my ideas into as they came along.But now i have a really hard time working with my pc cos i get totally pissed off by the lack of perfect timing.

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