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Subject: DJ´s get all defensive about this
Original Message Date: 18-Aug-02 @ 10:58 AM - DJ´s get all defensive about this
Message 51/62 30-Aug-02 @ 06:50 PM - RE: DJ´s get all defensive about this
Ape
Message 52/62 30-Aug-02 @ 07:29 PM - RE: DJ´s get all defensive about this
Message 53/62 31-Aug-02 @ 05:54 PM - RE: DJ´s get all defensive about this
Message 54/62 01-Sep-02 @ 04:13 PM - RE: DJ´s get all defensive about this
Message 55/62 01-Sep-02 @ 08:24 PM - RE: DJ´s get all defensive about this
On a quick tangent, my muhfukka, dissonance let me check out this turtablist conference video, and it was absolutely dope watchin Q-bert and D-styles swappin eights of just "the fresh" and "the ahh" over some fat little electro groove, but at the same time, in explaining the history of turntablism, they were totally caught up in technical tricks, almost like finger and crossfader olympics, and although talked a little about notatating things, they seemed to not have too much theoretical knowledge about the rymic concepts and approaches they had to their note placement and phrasing in their performances, and it kinda irked me, like it was Important Art, and although they were breaking ground, without a doubt, they were also just using a lot of theoretical knowledge applied in new ways that has been around a long time, and has been applied elsewhere. I'd like to see more turntablists with "traditional" music education in their backgrounds as well, so that they get less lost in the instrument and techniques, and more into exactly what they are doing musically. Watchin those cats swappin eights was definately the highlight of the tape for me, as it should a real Jazz ethic of improv and call and response thru manipulating samples in a really artistic way, so I can see where some pride is taken in turntablism, but if you're just pulling together a program of music, and matching a couple beats, and maybe cutting the bass of one track, whille mixing and cutting the next one in, and maybe backspinning or braking out of the first one, I don't know what DJ's have to be incensed about, by folks using a digital medium and integrating it into a showcase of recorded music, and besides, if it's your own music to boot, fuck them, that's the shit right there. I have a few records out now, and I take no shame in dropping most of a set of just my own records, burns of tunes, and mp3's and working them in ways I hadn't before. If you're doing it with traktor, or interspersing things that aren't pressed, or you can't find, but still want to get out there, by all means go on with at least my blessings and hopefully others' as well.
Ape
Ape
Message 56/62 02-Sep-02 @ 04:37 AM - RE: DJ´s get all defensive about this
damn pongoid..you break off some incredibly precise bits of wisdome sometimes!
Message 57/62 02-Sep-02 @ 07:18 PM - RE: DJ´s get all defensive about this
and finally now i have some good ways to put words across to my antagonists when they try to make me look bad infront of others and tell them that what i do is just crap cuz i use traktor its not about me trying to look good its about other people trying there best to make me look bad
Message 59/62 05-Sep-02 @ 06:41 PM Edit: 05-Sep-02 | 06:50 PM - RE: DJ´s get all defensive about this
Very good stuff...and holy shit can D Styles and QBert get down.
on another note.
there's a video of these two cats..Excess and ToadStyle getting down. The shit they're doing with a foot controled phrase sampler and some records is pretty impressive. Give it a viewing.
fuck..I'll have to post it later..can't find the link
okay here are the links...hispeed and otherwise
low=http://www.styluswars.com/multimedia/turntablist_lounge/real/episode5lo.ram
hi=http://www.styluswars.com/multimedia/turntablist_lounge/real/episode5hi.ram
dissonance
Message 60/62 05-Sep-02 @ 09:43 PM - RE: DJ´s get all defensive about this
' You think George Martin ever said, "We really shouldn't do it this way, no one else ever has...."...? '
YES!! he did! but john et al would just do it anyway till he finally gave up and went along with it. i cite, as one example out of many, the mic'ing on eleanor rigby.
raigan
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