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Subject: timbaland beats
Original Message Date: 11-Jun-00 @ 03:35 AM - timbaland beats
all i know about his production is he uses a lot of 32nd and 64th notes.
Message 61/71 16-Dec-00 @ 09:22 AM - RE: timbaland beats
Message 62/71 19-Dec-00 @ 03:37 AM - RE: timbaland beats
it's a reggea thing it's coming out of imho, i wouldnt mind betting his influence is strong with s/american/carribean beats, so it's similar like to ragga/jungle in that the top end/hats etc are 'countable' at double time in reggea which few people understand, which is where the massive drum variations come from... in ragga/jungle the kik & snare just doubled up too so the whole beat sped up by almost twice (ragga & jungle are basicaly double 'roots' reggea BPM tempo), whereas in reggea the kik & drum are in effect played at half/time if you 'think' in double time beats...
so when you're playing that sorta feel as a drummer in a jam, you can slip between half/time & full time beat in your mind as you play/programme to get the variations. does that make any sense?... er..
Message 63/71 19-Dec-00 @ 08:48 PM - RE: timbaland beats
bpm.? music that feels good (dub .roots, r&b,etc) at
whatever tempo is counted differently by different
musicians. Whether you happen to feel the 1/8th, the
1/16th . or the triplet it is individual.And if the
music is Quantized how does a double bpm affect the
feel?
Message 64/71 25-Dec-00 @ 04:03 AM - RE: timbaland beats
Message 65/71 11-Jan-01 @ 05:30 AM - RE: timbaland beats
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Message 66/71 12-Jan-01 @ 11:16 PM - RE: timbaland beats
Message 67/71 18-Jan-01 @ 01:05 AM - RE: timbaland beats
I play drums and do jungle splicing, drum machine programming, and really dig Timbaland's beats. I don't think that quantizing has anything to do with it. I bet he plays those things off the top of his head, just hitting the keys on his midi keyboard, he knows what he wants and he plays it. There are some drummers that have a way with the beat like that, Zigaboo Modeliste from the meters is worth listening too if you like wierd funky accents, some old skatelites have the same half-time/double-time rythm tricks in the drumming, and some dub records that I'm unable to name, but Timbaland definately has a style of his own the stop/start-accelerate/brake unfunky funk, he has created a new beat language. I'm trying to understand how these things work and apply them to my playing, and it all comes down to (stating the obvious here) leaving space and playing with half time/double time, playing on that fine line so that it's never quite one or the other. I'm kind of frustrated that aphex twin hasn't blown everyone away yet with what he could do with these beats, because most of the songs that these beats are pushing are fully disposable.
My humble attempt at using these beats in a live band can be heard at mp3.com/plod ,which is a trio - cello, violin, drums (go on check it out ;) )
Among my favorite beats are destiny's childs 'get on the bus', that bass drum fill...
and j majik - your sound (I'm a sucker for just about any spliced up amen break, which reminds me that I found an interview with Timbaland where he says that he's never heard any jungle or drum'n'bass...hmmm).
4ndy
Message 68/71 18-Jan-01 @ 01:51 AM - RE: timbaland beats
Message 69/71 18-Jan-01 @ 01:54 AM - RE: timbaland beats
beat_1_1 - Vel = 127
beat_1_2 - blank
beat_1_3 - vel = 60 ish
beat_1_4 - vel = 90 ish
beat_2_1 - vel = 127
etc
Message 70/71 18-Jan-01 @ 10:59 PM - RE: timbaland beats
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