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Original Message Date: 26-Jul-03 @ 06:01 PM - RIAA wants you!
* if i remember correctly, in the first three months of this year music sales increased in the uk.
Message 61/116 06-Aug-03 @ 04:09 AM - RE: RIAA wants you!
$40,000 wouldn't even cover the cost of a year's touring. $40,000 net I might agree with but I'm curious as to the number of people on this site who have children and what they think of raising a family on $40,000. God forbid someone's child is born needing lifelong medical attention beyond the norm.
Message 63/116 06-Aug-03 @ 02:45 PM - RE: RIAA wants you!
I get annoyed by the Ani thing...one of my ex's dragged me to a show, and the merch was still like $25 for a shitty shirt, CDs were $21 or so...
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I have to weigh in on this a little bit. Being from Buffalo, I hear a lot about Ani and her comings and goings. What I can say is that she pumps a ton of money back into the community. She still lives here, in her home town. She runs her business out of Buffalo. She just shelled out like $3 million or something like that to buy and restore a landmark church that was crumbling to the ground, and our city council was too fucking stupid to figure out how to save it. They literally had the street closed on the churches block for years because the were afraid the steeple was going to fucking fall off the church. She's setting up all her companies in that building, creating jobs in the city, and paying taxes in a place that's lost like 40% of its population over the last 10 years.
So she isn't hiding behind anything. Of course she plays the game.. What artist doesn't? Once you make the decision you're going to live off it you have no choice. Like Mick said, you have realities you need to think about - medical expenses, retirement, supporting a family, etc.. It's nice to know that she gives it back when she knows she has a surplus...
As opposed to Johnny Rzeznik of the Goo Goo Dolls who took his money and split to LA, or some of these rappers who have one hit song and buy a fucking grage full of Bentleys.
-Craig
PS - sometimes she's even sighted at people's gigs or in various bars downtown..
Message 64/116 06-Aug-03 @ 05:34 PM - RE: RIAA wants you!
It is a bit hypocritical to sing songs about a departure from the machine, how ugly the shit is, and then to dig right in with everyone else... that said i do not feel entitled in any way to judge anybody and it's a mistake that it got to bashing any individual!
I'm just saying if you don't like the machine, if it makes you sick... don't feed it. Period
Hey Mick, I'm not pissing on you... didn't mean to come off that way. I'm a grown up, with children... I live on right around $40,000 and frankly when compared with the rest of the earth, that's obscene! It's fuckin' sick that I make twice the earth's monthly wage everyday! That's not OK... but our culture REQUIRES it to some degree... I don't want my children to be homeless and shit on by a twisted society that puts greed before compassion. So I'm a part of that shit too. But I don't NEED more than that, and therefore I don't take it. I could.
But this ain't about me... just answering your call for someone to speak up who has more than themselves to consider. I'd feel like a shitty father if I taught my children otherwise.
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Message 65/116 06-Aug-03 @ 05:48 PM - RE: RIAA wants you!
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Message 66/116 06-Aug-03 @ 08:44 PM - RE: RIAA wants you!
but as errata said...Im not attacking ADF. It was just an example. This kind of shit happens all the time.
altho..people could just not buy the damn shirts, huh?
Message 67/116 07-Aug-03 @ 12:37 PM - RE: RIAA wants you!
market hahahaha
whats the point again?
Message 68/116 07-Aug-03 @ 02:05 PM - RE: RIAA wants you!
I can see how easy it is to get caught up in it though.. One minute it's like my band - broke, broke, broke. So broke there's no way we could even think about sustaining ourselves. So you charge whatever the max is you can get so you can pay your bills. Then somewhere along the line you realize, "hey I'm fucking loaded".. At least Ani gives it back to where she came from.
I know it wasn't an Ani diss specifically but I'm sure she's not the only one who does this, and I'm sure there are many who do just feed the machine.
If that matters to you you should only support the artists who have similar beliefs. That's part of the reason why I'm such a huge KMFDM fan - there's a measure of musical integrity that's missing in most bands today.
To steer this back on topic, I saw in Rolling Stone that the RIAA sued four college kids who built MP3 search engines for like $900 million apiece. They wound up settling for $9-12k, but basically they took these kids' college tuition savings.
I swear if I didn't love music so much I'd never buy another fucking CD.
Someone should sue the RIAA on the basis that shutting down things like Napster and MP3 searches illegally re-enforces the virtual monopoly their combined constituents hold over independent artists like ourselves.. In effect forcing artists to go through the system for distribution. It's anti-competetive.
-Craig
Message 69/116 07-Aug-03 @ 10:51 PM - RE: RIAA wants you!
Every real musician dies destitute but not every destitute musician really LIVES!!!!
"So if ah rrrisk me neck fer yoo do ah get ta kill kill the music industrree execs?"
"Aye, ya get to kill the music industry execs."
"Excellent!"
Message 70/116 07-Aug-03 @ 11:30 PM - RE: RIAA wants you!
*ducks hail of arrows,bends over,lifts kilt,shakes arse at the filthy sasannaich*:P
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