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Original Message Date: 12-Jan-02 @ 09:34 PM - high end

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a buddy of mine is about to invest in a really nice studio, and I'm looking for info on various old, warm, high end consoles. Not like SSL/Gamble type prices, but definately over the $100,000 mark. I know some of the stuff below that, but I'm kinda in the dark on the really high end. I know convertors, and the digital medium fairly well, but need more info on what, where and how much, before sinking re

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Message 81/144 18-May-02 @ 05:47 PM - RE: high end

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I only put that up to shut Brett up, I like K's porn better too.

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Message 82/144 19-May-02 @ 02:24 AM - RE: high end

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yeah what do you mean!. the signal has to get IN to pro-tools (if that's the recorder) you could run your API into protools for recording and mix thru the API back to digital thru some quality converter racks but with the added bonus of h/d audio & automation. People with dig' studio's are the main buyers of these types of eq modules i'd say, or at least they are what you'll get in a 'quality' PT studio will have some neve eq or whatever in two channel or more racks as a pro-tools front end.

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Message 83/144 19-May-02 @ 06:20 AM - RE: high end

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what I meant was, why buy a console from 1968-75 etc when you can buy a newer SSL etc for in the $100k range. I thought you were saying that was a vintage mixer and it still goes for $100k. I just wouldn't shell out a $100k for a 30 year old mixer unless it was 100% referbished and came with a warranty.

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Message 84/144 19-May-02 @ 07:30 AM - RE: high end

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what kind of board do you think I use? ...cough, Mackie!...cough...
if you are going to throwown big on a board get one of those boards that has 'ghost' faders and knobs, so they move for you when y sequence. you feel like the puppetmaster of an invisible symphony!

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Message 85/144 19-May-02 @ 02:27 PM - RE: high end

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hehe, dig that hydrobilly on acid look.

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Message 86/144 19-May-02 @ 04:42 PM - RE: high end

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brett, people buy particular vintage desks for their 'sound', they have their own character. as well as the eq & compressors.

people like to track on certain desks and mix on others. like k was saying track on the old shit and mix through pt, lots of people put it on tape first then transfer it onto pt.

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Message 87/144 19-May-02 @ 04:48 PM Edit: 19-May-02 | 05:01 PM - RE: high end

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well you dont buy an ssl for the eq surely! people with SSL studio's still buy API & NEVE eq's and those can be refurbished or not. But dont think cos a Neve eq is 30 years old it's any noisier or worse than a modern eq unit or channel eq strip. You seem to think old means inferior when the opposite is the case in fact and they can all be serviced too if required. If you had $100k to spend on a mixer anyways in reality the choices might be tough. I'd go for an old Neve or Harrison or something like that everytime & get it automated & bolted on the a patcher for digital or an MTR90 record input, 2" or digital, perfect... track my band to 2" with the option to dump down to 24 tracks of digital and mixdown via some nice vintage comp's & eq to dat & 1/2" Studer or Otari master duplicates. Then i'd have 3 adat's or tascam or whatever 8 tracks bolted together for 24 track dig' multitracking, again with an option to dump to pc for mixdown via a 24 channel adat or T-dif interface...

perfect - all bases covered... 24 track digital record (up to 24 tracks, robust, reliable for tracking) - 24 tracks of 2" for the same but analog, and the direct In to pc option for digital direct to pc for overdubbing and smaller projects.

I'd be happy as a pig in shit then with that setup! - oh! and a Sonor kit & a decent mic collection plus a few grands of compressors, gates & a decent monitoring 'verb.

Mind you those new Jade mixers look awesome... programmable comp/gate in each channel too!!... have you checked them out?... amazing!

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Message 88/144 19-May-02 @ 05:03 PM Edit: 19-May-02 | 05:04 PM - RE: high end

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http://www.soundtracs.co.uk/soundtracs/pages/ana_prods/ana_console/anpop_ups/jades_mod.htm

there's a Jade channel strip!... yum!

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Message 89/144 19-May-02 @ 05:12 PM Edit: 19-May-02 | 05:13 PM - RE: high end

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whoah! - they got a SOLO (32/8 in the refurbished sale for �1500 quid + vat!! - (s/h i've seen 'em ex-hire for �800 quid!) ... a worth alternative to Spirit or mackie or Behringer etc - perfect for h/d suites with 8 groups but tons of channels - a worth dance mixer - there it is (image) - 4 band eq with two sweep mids

http://www.studiosys.demon.co.uk/images/solo32_d.jpg

Solo "users" include Marius De Vries as seen in SOS November 2001

who is he? you might ask ....well he did the score for Moulin Rouge, and works with

Madonna and Bjork and Neil Finn...mmmm

" very musical eq" says Blue Weaver, producer of the early BeeGees and Pet Shop Boys stuff used to rave on about his Solo 32

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Message 90/144 19-May-02 @ 05:15 PM Edit: 19-May-02 | 05:16 PM - RE: high end

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Gary Newman also it seems used a soundtracs - interesting pages (link)

They also did an earlier SOLO'Logic' version with real flying faders, meter bridge & SMPTE/MTC lock and Midi Mutes!

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