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Subject: £1000 buys you......
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Original Message 1/11 11-May-98 @ 12:24 PM - £1000 buys you......
This has been burning on my mind recently,
Okay, this is in light of recent news that Roland have just released the MC505, 305 and SP808 over here in England, all retailing at £949. With specs that are very impressive.
Here is my question that was on my mind.
£1000 is A LOT of money which ever way you look at it, period. Synth manufacturers are just short of asking the earth for their "Pro User" kit these days and as long as people fork out their money for their shit, they'll keep doing it. IMHO. The majority creative musicians in the world are NOT spoilt little rich kids, they are broke. Having spent all there money so they could have that £xxxx.xx keyboard/sampler/guitar/penny whistle they always wanted.
Now, let the debate begin. Can we really justify spending £xxxx.xx for a sampler/synth.
Also, for £1000, you MUST be able to get quite a few bits of kit for the price of an MC505, SP808, don't you think? Am I alone here?
Message 2/11 11-May-98 @ 11:21 PM - RE: £1000 buys you......
For the same amount of money I've got a Peavey SP/SX (8 MB sampler), a Roland MKS70 (rack JX10) and a Casio VZ-1 (don't laugh, it's better than you believe). A lot more
flexible and a lot more fun. And no preset techno patterns or Groove Approved things. The sad thing is that people
think they'll have to have all the latest gear to make great sounds. Idiots...
Buy cheap used gear and learn to use it. I can make cool basses with my VZ-1, so anything should work.
Oh, I can get a NL2 Rack for the same money as the 505. It has analogue drums but no preset patterns or sampled GrooveTekKknoWaves (TM).
Guess which one I'd choose?
Message 3/11 12-May-98 @ 08:42 AM - RE: £1000 buys you......
BTW, aren't the NL drums really just samples? (after all, only 4-part multi-)
Message 4/11 12-May-98 @ 12:51 PM - RE: £1000 buys you......
Well, I have an Emu Emax SE, and Korg Prophecy and I'm looking into getting another sampler with more memory....1 meg Emax is a bit of a pain.
NO COMPUTERS, this is all gonna be used live.
These were what I could find in the May issue of Sound On Sound.
£1000 gets you either:
(1) Yamaha A3000 non-expanded
(2) Akai S2000 @£699 + some other kit
(3) Aka S3000XL
(4) Roland SP808
(5) Emu Esi32...just
or
(6) Some secondhand kit.
I'm really thinking hard about this.
Message 5/11 12-May-98 @ 12:55 PM - RE: £1000 buys you......
Message 6/11 12-May-98 @ 12:57 PM - RE: £1000 buys you......
Message 7/11 12-May-98 @ 01:11 PM - RE: £1000 buys you......
anyways... i have to agree.... and you will notice that most of dancetech implores the reader to LOOK at the cheap alternatives... and dont get bogged down in this "Latest KIT" game.... for techno and trance, a sampler and say a SH101 or SH09 is all you need to get going... for house or garage... again a sampler and maybe a dx100 or tx81Z plus mabe a basstation is enuff to do a track.... NO QUESTION ABOUT IT...... SO stop yer whining......and get on with it.....
Message 8/11 12-May-98 @ 05:41 PM - RE: £1000 buys you......
We are not making hardcore, house, garage or techno, what we are making is sample and synth based funk music ala the seventies (flares, affros et al). Go on laugh I don't care.
Anyway as there is only two of us, at the moment it, all of the samples eg. brass, drumloops, and percusion are on the Emax, which is now as you can imagine, chockablock full. And basslines are played live off a live bass. The prophecy plays the analogue synth lines and other strange sounds which makes the muisic sound seriously cool. So..... I need to get myself another sampler cos. I've got no memory left. This way I can have much fuller percusion breaks and maybe even some vocals.
I decided in the end to plunge for another Emax SE (but in rack form this time) and get meself a Syntechno Teebee (I luurve the filter to bits) and an effects unit also... All for under a grand.
Though my initial point was (I think) that the first hand market prices for anything these days have gone through the roof. Maybe I'm on my own on this one.
Message 9/11 13-May-98 @ 02:20 AM - RE: £1000 buys you......
I know it is more than 1000£ but anyway ....The best investment I have made is the ensoniq Paris recorder/mixer.
It“s about to recording not to synthesis but as many people there said you can find a bunch of underrated synths out there ... and many shareware like Hammerhead
that new 303 german soft and others . A little of imagination and that“s it .
Record well your midi gear can make a great difference .
Message 10/11 13-May-98 @ 08:31 AM - RE: £1000 buys you......
Hey, my k2000rs cost me 600 quid with 34mb and the contemporary board (with all the nice claves and wurlitzers) included.
Message 11/11 14-May-98 @ 11:00 AM - RE: £1000 buys you......
a) is the only thing you need to make techno
b) is the ONLY thing you can make techno with
It's not the gear, it's the musician... and Kilo, couldn't you add a "buying used" section or something like that, with tips on what to look out for (like, a power supply is handy when you buy something ;) ?
And no, the NL drums are analogue.. so you get to tweak them..
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