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Subject: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
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Original Message Date: 19-Dec-02 @ 01:52 PM - MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
ORB, Prodigy, Crystal Method, Chemical Brothers, Mr Scruff, Goldie, OD 404, DJ Shadow, FSOL, Leftfield, LTJ Bukem, Moby, Beastie Boys, Daft Punk, Basement Jaxx, Dr Dre, etc. That's just to name a few.
Guess what they all used old analogue gear too with MIDI! What's that about comin' to software where it's better? The most important thing in this message that I wanted to get accross to the 90's Child, is that all those producers that I just listed are making BIG BUCKS off their music. What about you and your software? Have you even done a live show? Thank you and good night.
Message 11/99 19-Dec-02 @ 10:34 PM - RE: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
Message 12/99 19-Dec-02 @ 11:32 PM - RE: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
Message 13/99 20-Dec-02 @ 12:28 AM - RE: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
You MUST write music the way I do or I shall not respect you!
e
Message 14/99 20-Dec-02 @ 01:14 AM - RE: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
but lets face it i relly hope that midi will die soon and it will all be replaced with a better protocol (like usb or firewire or even better cat5 cables 1gbt speed)
and i would relly like to do a blind test on this BT guy cuz i am having a hard time beliving that he actually hears the difference so well he could not go on using midi (even a freind of mine who works as a professional drummer thinks midi is pretty darn tight there are some timing glitches but seriously come on)
And of course they use pro tools thats the program used for recording u moron .Of course the good thing with pro tools is that u can continue the creative process after the initial recording but the sound have to come from somewere and that somewere is controlled by midi or CV or is totally software based and probably sounds like it to
Message 15/99 20-Dec-02 @ 03:49 AM - RE: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
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Message 16/99 20-Dec-02 @ 04:07 AM - RE: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
Not really. Pro Tools runs off its own custom hardware audio interfaces that handle the DSP functions to take the load off the CPU. That's why it costs so friggin much, along with greed and niche market domination, but that's another issue altogether.
Think of Pro Tools as the "Oasys of soft sequencers". i.e. To run a "real" PT rig, you have to have their TDM hardware.
This is why PT caught fire with the professional and academic crowds years ago, before all of this VST / plug-in tech was possible, back when Macs were still measured in Mhz.
The appeal was that you had professional, CD/DAT quality audio, zero latency monitoring, extensive digital and analog i/o options, and a great user interface via the computer monitor.PT really is the most successful union of hardware and software out there. Look at the results. Everyone uses it, and it sounds fantastic. And all of the SW companies try to emulate it; Emagic (now Apple), Steinberg (now Pinnacle), Cakewalk (at least they're still around
), Opcode (oops, they're gone), and so it goes.Don't diss PT without knowing. It's actually in your best interest to learn it if you can; it's the real deal and could take you places if you know your sh!t.
Scott
Message 17/99 20-Dec-02 @ 05:18 AM - RE: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
If you're that much of a timing freak, you need to edit your parts as audio, at the sample-level. But pretty much any digital audio source (i.e. all modern synths) are dealing with MIDI at some level, at some point.
psylichon
Message 18/99 20-Dec-02 @ 08:20 AM - RE: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
I agree, MIDI is not dead, nor will it ever die. It will likely be incorporated in mLan, and (hopefully) not excluded.
Scott
Message 19/99 20-Dec-02 @ 08:58 AM - RE: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
If anyone bothered to read the original thread, they would know that I was refering to midi cables, bad timing interfaces, daisy chains, etc.
Do you really think that Liam from the Prodigy sits there with a akai 3000 and a computer and has 10 outs from his sampler going staright down a desk? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Jesus!
You people probably think that Timo Maas engineers and produces his own tracks and that Danny Tenaglia is a top engineer also.
You all probably think that Goldie was responsible for Inner City Life and the whole metalheadz sound.
Yes, very good "makin Money". Well done for copying and pasting Liams kit list. The thing you fail to realise is that all his shit is recorded into pro tools THEN produced.
Ps I f@#kin hate BT!
Message 20/99 20-Dec-02 @ 09:19 AM - RE: MIDI that's the way uh hu- uh uh...
So, what this means is that there is a natural push and pull incorporated into the MIDI almost like the real band feeling. If the 90s child is saying that 20 ms delay is bad then what does he say about the old disco bands that pushed or pulled tempo or any band for that matter.
All bands vary in tempo (the drummer is only human), it's a natural occurrence. The variance may be so minute that no one can hear it, but it's pretty much the same thing with MIDI- who can really hear the delay? If you say you can then get your equipment checked out, there’s something wrong. All I’m saying is that if you can’t hear the delay then what the h e l l are you complaining about?!? Are you just proud that you only have software? Then maybe I should brag about my set up which cost me more than $16,000 but I won’t because I’ll just use it to achieve what I want and that is music. I appreciate your time and goodnight!
J
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