the bassline on Optical/EdRush's "wormhole"

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Original Message 1/17 07-Aug-99 @ 08:13 PM - optical&ed rush's incredible morphing elastic subs

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that bassline on Ed & Optical's "wormhole"....

first of all i want everybody to appreciate what a beautiful thing that bassline is. they sculpted that shit with tender loving care.

but most importantly, i am about to buy an analogue synth dedicated to making those *exact* same shimmering, morphing sub basslines. i know by looking at the other messages on this board that nuff fools have come along asking endlessly boringly people with "what's good for making any old dance bass line?" (answer: Juno106, TX81Z rarara etc). but that's NOT what i'm asking. i'm saying, what synth makes THAT bass sound.

the Waldorf Pulse+ and the SuperBassStation are the names being thrown at me. but i don't have much experience with analogue synths (i've new to producing), and i need all the info i can get before i spend the little money i have.

a real audio file of the track in question is available here:
http://www.neurofunk.com/place_to_be/audio/virlp_wormhole.ram

if you havn't heard it, i suggest you check that sweet delicious junglist shit asap.

fanks and luv
Fa Shaan / FongSaiYuk

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Message 2/17 07-Aug-99 @ 08:18 PM - RE: the bassline on Optical/EdRush's

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eh, sorry 'bout the typos

fa shaan

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Message 3/17 08-Aug-99 @ 01:57 PM - RE: the bassline on Optical/EdRush's

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Man...for you to know EXACTLY what synth made that sound..youd have to ask the producer..sounds like (RA doesnt translate faithfully)it could be ANYTHING. could be a sampler too! sounds like a square/saw combo maybe...Filter CO mod...perhaps LFO to VCA for the crazy vibrato...

'sides...why not just get either the pulse or the super bass station..both dope synths, and make your own bassline, based on the influence of that and other tracks you dig so much? Dont forget the effects...sounds like that has a little chorus or flange on it...distortion or maybe just an overdriven channel...
innovate, dont immitate
Peace

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Message 4/17 08-Aug-99 @ 03:11 PM - RE: the bassline on Optical/EdRush's

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Those tweaky ones (like on the track 'wormhole') are made with FM.

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Message 5/17 11-Aug-99 @ 06:43 AM - RE: the bassline on Optical/EdRush's

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sounds like a reversed sample of a normal sqaure wave bassline to me... with velocity addressing the filter

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Message 6/17 11-Aug-99 @ 06:47 AM - RE: the bassline on Optical/EdRush's

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or perhaps lfo to filter - the thing is mate, like we try to say again and again here, it;s what you DO with the synths that count,, creativity as opposed to buying technology is where it is at so "sculpted with TLC" may infact be simply - "bunged in a reversed loop" !

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Message 7/17 11-Aug-99 @ 12:51 PM - RE: the bassline on Optical/EdRush's

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Out of all the monos ive tried the TEEBEE is the fiercest of all.... you get audio-in too, 2 X midi merge (very usefull as a merge-box costs about 100 UKP anyways... plus it's real analog, has a wicked ring-mod, plus you get 4 gate outs and 4 CV outs to cater for any old analogs too !!... at 350 its a steal... HUGE BASS..... check the ra file above to hear it in action

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Message 8/17 13-Aug-99 @ 08:05 AM - RE: the bassline on Optical/EdRush's

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Are you selling these or summit?

I found a good way to get the bass sounds even funkier is to mike up some of those mutlimedia speakers and overdrive em to fuck..

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Message 9/17 13-Aug-99 @ 12:40 PM - RE: the bassline on Optical/EdRush's

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no, but they are such excellent units, now very cheap , excellent value, and they get overlooked so often, when someone posts a 'monsynth' query eveyone comes back saying Pulse, basststion etc...rarely is the TeeBee mentioned... same with SE stuff...

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Message 10/17 18-Aug-99 @ 05:29 AM - RE: the bassline on Optical/EdRush's

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Okay, well I can't tell you what Optical used to make that particular sound but I do know the following about his studio:
Z1
Access Virus
E4 Sampler
MS20

He also often uses desk distortion (set the channel gain really high and the fader really low)

He's been in the game for a while so don't be downhearted if you can't get that quality of sound right away. Remember that Optical, Bad Company, and RAM are the top players in that field so you're comparing your efforts to some pretty heavy duty benchmarks.

Hang in there.

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