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Subject: Muddy mixing
Original Message 1/21 18-Mar-02 @ 01:56 AM - Muddy mixing
Mixing bass is a B*tch.
You should probably hear it, but what comes to your head right off?
I would really like to crisp it up a bit.
I've attempted to EQ and compress it already.
THank you,
Dustin Lyday
Message 2/21 18-Mar-02 @ 02:17 AM - RE: Muddy mixing
If the bass is dominating too much tho on those speakers, mebbe you're creeping it up into the low midrange too much, crap small speakers will miss the bass end, if it's dominating on those then there's prolly too much lo-mid emphasis... ramp it down therefore. Do you have any decent eq?.. or is this done in s/w or what? - and what is doing your bassline?.. what synth?
Message 3/21 18-Mar-02 @ 03:00 AM - RE: Muddy mixing
That's the best EQ I have access to I think. It's a pretty good EQ, but then again, I'm just now mixing at this level for the first time. I used to just make my music on hardware and not really get into in depth mixing.
Message 4/21 18-Mar-02 @ 01:25 PM - RE: Muddy mixing
Generaly tho you want to hard shelve-off the bass-end at 30k so you get some oomph at 40k up, but not TOO much up, not .. however it depends what drum & bass styleee you are going for... if you listen to an old TRINITY yard plates such as on JAMAICA SOUND label ('Natty dread have the big contacts' etc) the bass is way way down at 20-40k ONLY, inaudible unless played on a big speaker, so there is styles too and drum&bass can go down lo like that... Mind you, you'd be hard pressed to get that without a 2" analog master.
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Message 5/21 18-Mar-02 @ 01:26 PM - RE: Muddy mixing
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Message 6/21 18-Mar-02 @ 03:18 PM - RE: Muddy mixing
Thanks for the help guys. I didn't know that part about the low freq. shelving.
I made the bass ln with my xp-80. It was a big challenge to get a good bass line for d'n'b out of that thing.
My d'n'b sound is not very dirty. It's drum line is very syncopated after the first break and has a symphony of strings and later a sitar sound for leads. All of it was done in the xp-80 at first because it's all I had. Now I have a waldorf MicroQ and am a little more excited.
Thanks,
Dustin Lyday
Message 8/21 18-Mar-02 @ 05:34 PM - RE: Muddy mixing
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Message 10/21 18-Mar-02 @ 09:20 PM - RE: Muddy mixing
I mix breaks and the bass I use is very D-n B at times. I work on those and the kick first. I use plenty of lowend shelving with the vst eq's. I just starting using some studio head phones to a/b my mixes. They produce down farhter than my near feilds. I get a better idea of what my car sounds like on them.
One more thing, is using a higher bit depth and samaple rate. Since I switched to 24/48 for all audio other than bass,kick and snares which i do at 16/48. I have much more head room, and the fx are clearer when the audio engine is set to 44.1khz. You will use more cpu and disk space, but the added headroom is amazingly there.
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