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Subject: getting the kick balanced
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Original Message 1/15 10-May-02 @ 08:19 PM - getting the kick balanced
I get it to sit better ith comp on the final mix, but I may be over doing it to fix this.
any tips !
Message 2/15 10-May-02 @ 08:47 PM - RE: getting the kick balanced
I don't think dance producers ride the faders much during the mix, that's more for fixing accoustic volume changes.
When I do different patterns like breakdowns, sections with Breakbeats and other things, I will usually mess with velocity settings on my kick and other things to get it to sound right in context of the pattern. I sometimes use a different kick if I feel like it. It's more of a feel thing. I like to get it sounding right in the main part of a track and then work backwards.
But, as a rule of thumb, if your kick is compressed enough for the 'main' parts, then it should sound right for the rest of the mix.
Maybe overall track compression during mastering will help?? I usually put it through my Quantum, and that keeps things pretty consistant sounding.
Message 3/15 10-May-02 @ 09:27 PM - RE: getting the kick balanced
-Craig
Message 4/15 10-May-02 @ 09:40 PM - RE: getting the kick balanced
Message 6/15 11-May-02 @ 05:40 AM - RE: getting the kick balanced
but it's more like it pumps good with the bass going , but then when the bass isn't there and it's just the kick, the kick sounds wrong. I have fixed it in the past by drawing in a volume change when all the stuff drops in, but thought their may be a better way of compressing it. I really want to hear the kick clear and at the same level when the mix is going, as when it's soloed. Overall compression seems to work. It's just somthing that happens every now and then when i am using deep bass . I think multi-band may do the job better, and choosing a diferant kick sample for the bass i am using.
anyway, messed with it and posted it up "Das Boot" the title.
Message 7/15 11-May-02 @ 06:54 AM - RE: getting the kick balanced
Message 8/15 12-May-02 @ 12:34 PM - RE: getting the kick balanced
Message 9/15 12-May-02 @ 09:55 PM - RE: getting the kick balanced
Use a different kick for areas where you don't run the bassline.
EQ or use synthesis to fatten the kick up or boost the freqs that the bassline covered.
Just let it be... unless you need the kick to fill up the range, just let the kick sound different where it's not running against the bassline.
Just me two tacos...
Message 11/15 15-May-02 @ 05:39 PM - RE: getting the kick balanced
Ape
Message 12/15 15-May-02 @ 06:50 PM - RE: getting the kick balanced
got any fail-safe eq settings for a big bottom 909 thud.Delerium- " Silence, Sanctuary mix " comes to mind. I find cutting around the 300-400 helps when you bring up the gain on the comp. I think I would like the kick better if i had it going through a nice tube comp instead of an RCL. These software plugs can only do so much. I am not getting the meat i want from just the kick. I do when the bass is layered. Do I need to send it through a bass head, or magneto or somthing like that?
Message 13/15 15-May-02 @ 09:52 PM - RE: getting the kick balanced
If it's bothering you so much, how about making a slightly fuller version of the kick that fires by itself and then use the regular one that works with the bass. It's a hack, but at least it gives you variation.
Why not post your loops one with just kick and one with bass and kick. It would be easier to figure out what's going on.
Mong.
Message 14/15 15-May-02 @ 10:38 PM - RE: getting the kick balanced
Message 15/15 16-May-02 @ 04:07 PM - RE: getting the kick balanced
I'll post up a sample of the kick I want and the one I have and we can go from there. Probably be tomorow. Got work late. I am at work now.. maybe I should actually do somthing here.. see ya!
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