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Subject: howdya get them to gell like that?
Original Message Date: 03-May-02 @ 09:43 PM - howdya get them to gell like that?
you see, i have problems with getting my beats to gell properly when using hardware. you know: you take a bunch of samples, make a pattern, and do _something_ to it so they all melt together, into one cohesive substance. i´m primarily talking about breakbeat based beats here, meaning bunch of samples grabbed from different sources.
using software, i find this to be no problem. i can put a plugin on a group which will take care of this. my favourites untill now were TC plugs with "soft-sat" function, or PSP mix saturator and vintage warmer plugs.
only thing is, i dont want to be software based. what the hell do i have a sampler for? or maybe i should sell it (i do use it primarily for beats nowadays) and take the soft route for drums?
in case you think i should stick with hardware, what do you suggest? what comp/tube amp/thingamajick does it for you? i´m making good use of my FilterBank, but that is only mono, and i like having things flexible, e.g. not having to resample things several times only to find out that they dont work.
help me! M.
Message 12/21 04-May-02 @ 08:29 AM - RE: howdya get them to gell like that?
Message 13/21 04-May-02 @ 05:12 PM - RE: howdya get them to gell like that?
put all kinds of rollin' little tppity tappity shit in close with your snares and kicks. Shift'em back and forth and stuff- they really give it a shuffly cohesive sort of rythm.
Message 14/21 04-May-02 @ 08:32 PM - RE: howdya get them to gell like that?
Message 15/21 05-May-02 @ 12:44 PM - RE: howdya get them to gell like that?
Here's another thing that everybody probably knows but I just discovered. :[ although it's very dicey. Take a reverb with a very short tail and little or no early reference. A "small room" reverb might be a good starting point. Bring the level IN THE REVERB UNIT up into the clipping zone. Then adjust the mix ratio. You probably want it just a little wet. Seems to give a slightly different effect than simply clipping the drum. I can imagine this effect in some styles of d'n'b. It might be too dirty for breakbeats. I don't know.
Message 16/21 05-May-02 @ 08:25 PM - RE: howdya get them to gell like that?
Message 17/21 05-May-02 @ 09:31 PM Edit: 05-May-02 | 09:32 PM - RE: howdya get them to gell like that?
unfortunately, i still got better results quicker with s/w. might have something to with not having all the samples strewn around different banks... oh well.
some cool tips here, especially the last one from sitar. who would´ve thought ;)
if anyone else comes up with a cool tip, feel free to post it
cheers, M.
Message 18/21 05-May-02 @ 09:31 PM - RE: howdya get them to gell like that?
Ape
Message 19/21 06-May-02 @ 04:28 PM - RE: howdya get them to gell like that?
I read sitar's tip yesterday and tried it, but I think I did something wrong cos it sounded like a human beatbox. I'm putting up a sample.. it's actually pretty cool.. I think. It's very distorted indeed.. maybe that's all really listen to it, ok?
Message 20/21 06-May-02 @ 10:42 PM - RE: howdya get them to gell like that?
:P
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