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Original Message 1/26 29-Apr-02 @ 03:57 PM - mixing for club sound systems
Do club sound engineers re-eq the records on the fly anyway? I've also heard that all sound systems convert into mono before being transmitted to the speakers, is this true?
The reason I ask is I'm working on quite a clubby tune at the moment (sort of funky house)and I want to make sure it sounds good in the clubs (if it got that far). However, its quite bass heavey and sounds great on my Absolute 2's but Ive heard this are naturally quite bright and so Im worried Im over compensating for this.
Message 2/26 29-Apr-02 @ 06:49 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Message 3/26 29-Apr-02 @ 11:03 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
If you add this extra umph in to a mix and the system is not designed for it, you can blow speakers or even just have it sound like mudd. So mixing on some nice big speakers in the studio can help, as long as you a/b them to sound good on the small system as well. I have taken bad mixes to the club and they sound great. The bigger the speaker the more forgiving it is to unballanced material.
Message 4/26 29-Apr-02 @ 11:21 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Given that your monitors don't go all the way down to the really low frequencies... Is that where a sub-woofer comes in ? Do we want a sub to be able to hear what's actually going on down there, assuming that if we can get the mix to sound good on a pair of excellent monitors AND a sub then it will sound decent on just about any system ?
Message 5/26 30-Apr-02 @ 02:16 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Message 6/26 30-Apr-02 @ 02:34 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Message 7/26 30-Apr-02 @ 03:12 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Message 8/26 30-Apr-02 @ 03:25 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
I've heard that the louder the system the more the lows and very high ends get emphasised and the mids get drowned out, is this not the case?
Message 9/26 30-Apr-02 @ 03:26 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Message 10/26 30-Apr-02 @ 04:15 PM Edit: 30-Apr-02 | 06:26 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
one thing I've found about playing the stuff in clubs is that the system has enough bass. you don't gotta dump a ton of bass in there make up for any deficiencies. if you do, then it gets boomy and robs the mids of their energy. if your mix is nice and balanced, through a big system it should sound massive.
Message 11/26 30-Apr-02 @ 06:18 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Message 12/26 30-Apr-02 @ 09:39 PM Edit: 30-Apr-02 | 09:42 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
"Lovebirds..." whispered the guy behind the counter.
So we walked out of the Atlanta airport without my luggage, without any form of compensation.
Message 13/26 30-Apr-02 @ 09:41 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
I'll see if I can clarify what I'm confused about sometime later tonight, but I suppose if I could make it clear I wouldn't really be confused in the first place...
ARGH!
Message 14/26 30-Apr-02 @ 11:37 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
;)
Michael.
Message 16/26 01-May-02 @ 12:41 AM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
BUT...again...JUST FUCKING DANCE MUSIC! Make it sound BIG and full, and enough bass...hell...mix it on auratones...get the bass where its just present but not farting anything out...and itll sound solid on pretty much anything
I always thought vinyl could handle a bit MORE than CD audio?
Message 17/26 01-May-02 @ 12:45 AM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
hey i i'll have those ragtime albums in the mail this week i promise. june bug jitterbug is the shit!
Message 18/26 01-May-02 @ 06:14 AM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Unfortunately, I've yet to be able to send out the same mixdown for vinyl as I have for CD. The places I've had to go through for vinyl generally want a mixdown that comes in peaking around -3db digital. Check with the mastering engineers directly if you can. Might save a lot of headache.
Pase
Message 19/26 01-May-02 @ 02:22 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
I remember listening to an orbital track on the cd my freind had, so I went and got the vinyl albumn. The track was "Out there Somwhere" The vinyl has no bass and I had to crank up the bass on the eq for it sound adequate over the PA.
Message 20/26 01-May-02 @ 10:38 PM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Message 21/26 02-May-02 @ 12:33 AM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Message 22/26 02-May-02 @ 07:05 AM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
Flux - That was my response when I got the test pressing from this outfit... sounded like a fucked press. But when I asked them about it they said it was due to being too hot, especially in the subs and high end. When I asked the main console jock what i should be sending them he said nothing hotter than -3db as digital peak. That's also been confirmed by a couple other vinyl houses.... HOWEVER, since I'm usually coming straight off me board (no extra maximizing, compressing, etc.) at waaaay hotter than what their talking, I called around and got about three times as many mastering houses that said to get it set the way I liked it. All said to make sure not to overdo the subs and the real high end, but aside from that, I could feel free to push the levels reasonably hot (definitely peaking at digital 0).
So, that being the case, I'd just check with the mastering engineer first-hand if you can. Although, honestly, I'd assume most labels would let you know how you need to mix and/or master, if it's an issue, so I wouldna fret too much about generally....
PPPPPPPP
Message 23/26 02-May-02 @ 10:35 AM - RE: mixing for club sound systems
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